Re: More than =?UNKNOWN?B?MqI=?= worth
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Thank you Mr. Fulton!!
--- Jack Fulton <email@example.com> wrote:
> I should not jump into this fray.
> We, theoretically, are 'alternative' photographer
> Therefore we are using processes that are "different
> from the usual
> or conventional: as a : existing or functioning
> outside the
> established cultural, social, or economic system"
> (according to
> Merriam-Webster) BUT, in general, we are rather
> conventional, even
> Ludditical at times.
> PM and the French argot is not an easy read. Since
> the VietNam 'war'
> and Gregory Bateson/Margaret Mead, many realize
> much of the medium's
> imagery is controlled by whims/morals/mores/biases
> of the maker,
> hence Crewsdon, Sherman, Wall, Levine et al abound.
> There is fiction
> in their reality. Veracity is a property of the
> medium used not its
> truthful verification.
> As Camden indicates, chuck the email or contact
> Michael Grillo.
> What I feel most of you are failing to understand
> from Michael's
> query is that times have changed greatly and the
> photograph does not hold the cache it once did.
> I would he he (Michael) feels there MUST be a NEW
> way to look at what
> is real around us.
> For instance . . . . in our country here in North
> America, you'll see
> a lot of new journalism work shot at an angle. This
> comes straight
> from New Topographics work now over twenty years
> old, but it has
> slipped sylph-like into the visual jargon. Too what
> digital hath
> wrought is an ability to "alter" an image. These are
> major changes.
> What is exigent one might ask? Is it the Iraq war or
> is the loss of
> ocean quality more important. Only things tangible
> to the pocketbook
> seems to make news but there is far far more that
> needs to be covered
> AND with bias I'd say. Overpopulation,
> corruption/greed at the top,
> lack of education can all be journalistically
> photographed in ways
> not yet seen I am sure.
> So, rather than dissing Mr. Grillo, join in with the
> guy and help
> make the world a better place.
> On September2006, at 5:09 PM, Camden Hardy wrote:
> >> All
> >> of us know it very well that photography can be
> used to represent
> >> something untrue, and so what is new here?
> > I think that's the point, although I agree that
> the posting is pretty
> > vague. Here's my take on the whole thing, for
> those of you who
> > care (if
> > not, hit the "delete" button immediately)...
> > "...calls for works that specifically question the
> nature of visual
> > documentation, including its definition,
> potentials, semiotic
> > systems, and
> > social resonances in a Post-Modern world."
> > I interpret this as saying, "so photography has
> the ability to
> > distort the
> > truth...now what are we, as photographers, going
> to do about it?"
> > Now, I still have no idea as to what kind of
> imagery they're
> > looking for
> > (they seem to have put too much energy into
> $.50-$1 words and not
> > enough
> > into making it understandable), but I'm not sure
> this show deserves
> > the
> > harsh criticism it's been getting on this list.
> > It actually sounds a lot like an assignment I had
> in my
> > "nonfiction" photo
> > class a few years ago...
> > Camden Hardy
> > camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
> > http://www.hardyphotography.net
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