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RE: NOW: Way OT! Text Books

Poor Michael. The guy can't win....

Tenants Harbor, Maine

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:12 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: > Re: WAY OT! TEXT BOOKS
> I don't know that it is fair to call text book publishers "rapacious 
> profiteers."
> I do know that during the past 10-15 years it has become common 
> practice for a number of publishers of college and university text 
> books to issue new editions of standard texts on a fairly frequent 
> routine, with very few substantive changes. This was routine with 
> some of the standard elementary and intermediate Spanish texts we 
> used at Clemson University, by my rough estimation, every three or 
> four years. For the most part the new editions were not made at the 
> request of the author based on significant revisions of the text.
> It is true that when departments have professors who have authored 
> textbooks those texts tend to be adopted by the department. However, 
> on the whole professors who write text books derive very little 
> financial profit from the activity. Some years ago I was offered a 
> contract to do a a text on Spanish Culture and Civilization but 
> turned it down because, 1) there would have been very little 
> financial return from the publisher for my work, and 2) universities 
> don't reward highly this type of intellectual work.
> Sandy
> >I sincerely do not understand how text book publishers are rapacious 
> >profiteers.  Could anyboy clarify that?  What would make a clasroom 
> >leader require a text offered by a rapacious profiteer, anyway?
> >
> >Steve Shapiro
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Grillo Michael" <grillo@maine.edu>
> >To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> >Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:43 AM
> >Subject: Re: WAY OT! TEXT BOOKS
> >
> >>Greetings, All,
> >>Given the steep cost of texts these days, I advise my students to 
> >>pair or triple up in buying the texts, which, besides saving them 
> >>money, serves my not-so-hidden agenda of promoting collaborative 
> >>studying.  Sharing texts induces them them to discuss the work 
> >>openly  amongst themselves, either through their studying together, 
> >>or more  casually, their conversations as they arrange who reads 
> >>the  assignments when.  Students have anecdotally filtered back to 
> >>me  that, while it sometimes inconveniences them, it does more to 
> >>get  them to work together outside of class than any of the 
> >>university  provided internet fora.  At any rate, they do it 
> >>voluntarily.  (Hey,  I'm just using capitalist incentives to 
> >>promote good study habits and  undermine rapacious profiteers!)
> >>Pre-emptive apologies to any language critics, Michael