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RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

	Good to hear from you.  
	As you and Melody know I have bought lots of Cranes Platinotype from
you and was VERY unhappy to hear that there were problems with this reliable
paper.  I started using COT 320, most of which I bought from B&S, and was
very impressed.  It is a very expensive paper but, if I have a problem with
even one 11X14 piece of paper and I factor in the cost of PT/PD chemistry
and my time lost, it seems penny wise and pound foolish to use anything but
the best, most reliable, paper.  So far (saying this while knocking on wood)
COT 320 has performed wonderfully.  
	I hope the Crane's people clean up the problem with Platinotype

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Sullivan [mailto:richsul@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:03 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

  This is interesting. We have tried this paper several times and found it
wanting. Kevin was doing the testing and I am not sure what he didn't like
about it but I'll ask him later when he comes in. It may be the batch you
are testing is good. He usually runs tests from several different batches.
We have found that paper can vary from batch to batch. We have all seen how
this was the case with Platine. One batch good the next one was crap. When
Dick Arentz was here we cut two pieces of Platine into 4x5's and coated them
as one 8x10. We dried and printed them. One 4x5 piece was from our batch and
one was from some the Arentz brought with him. The difference was like night
and day.
  We have driven paper companies nuts with our testing and quality demands.
One can see that what we need in a paper is not what 99.99% of their
customers want. We have had the Cranes rep out to our place a number of
times. They have spent a lot of time working with us on the black spot
problem. One has to give them a lot of credit for flying a rep out to Santa
Fe more than once. 
  It does look like we should take another look at this paper.
  --Dick Sullivan
  Bostick & Sullivan
  -----Original Message-----
From: Kerik [mailto:kerik@kerik.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)
  I have some good paper news, especially for current and former users of
  Cranes Platinotype (aka Cranes Crest Natural White Wove, Cranes Business
  Card Stock, Artificial Parchment, etc.)
  With the recent problems with the "Platinotype Black Plague", many are
  looking for other options. There is a "new" 50-year-old paper that found
  recently. I got a call a few weeks ago from John Zokowski from
  Butler-Dearden Paper Co., a Crane's distributor offering samples of
  Byron-Weston's Diploma Parchment paper for me to test with pt/pd printing.
  (Byron-Weston is a subsidiary of Cranes.) This paper has been made for 50+
  years and is used for diplomas and other formal documents. This paper is
  manufactured a bit on the acidic side, which is a good thing for pt/pd and
  other iron processes. No pretreatment is necessary.
  To make a long story short, this is the paper Platinotype should have been
  but never was (at least not for a long time.) It produces a rich black and
  nice warm tone with pure palladium. It's a bit on the thin side at 177
  so for large prints, in needs to be handled with care. It's also a bit on
  the yellow side for my taste, but a whiter version and thicker version are
  in the works. It seems to clear very easily and also seems to be
  black-spot-free. Finally, where it really shines over Platinotype is that
  the surface remains nice and smooth after processing. It doesn't take on
  fuzzy surface of processed Platinotype. And, to top it off, it is very
  reasonably priced.
  Go here http://www.crane.com/business/weston...palladium.aspx for info.
  Contact John Zokowski for pricing and to place an order. Happy printing!
  Kerik Kouklis