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RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)


100 sheets - 8.5x11 - $50
50  sheets - 22x34  - $74.84
100 sheets - 22x34  - $115.26
200 sheets - 22x34  - $184.84

Prices do not include shipping.

Don Bryant

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Moore [mailto:jeremydmoore@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:25 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

I haven't seen this mentioned in this discussion, but what's the price
of this paper?


On 11/28/06, Sandy King <sanking@clemson.edu> wrote:
> I received some 22X34" sheets of the new Weston paper yesterday and
> made a few palladium prints today. It appears to be an excellent
> paper and lives up to previous billing. The paper gives excellent
> reflective density, the coating paper is fairly smooth and does not
> need a lot of sensitizer (about 2ml of coating for a 7X17" print was
> more than enough), it clears well (in fact, came out of the potassium
> oxalate almost completely clear), and has very good detail.
> The RH in my printing room was about 55%.
> Sandy King
> At 9:03 AM -0700 11/27/06, Richard Sullivan wrote:
> >   Kerik,
> >
> >   This is interesting. We have tried this paper several times and found
> >wanting. Kevin was doing the testing and I am not sure what he didn't
> >about it but I'll ask him later when he comes in. It may be the batch you
> >are testing is good. He usually runs tests from several different
> >We have found that paper can vary from batch to batch. We have all seen
> >this was the case with Platine. One batch good the next one was crap.
> >Dick Arentz was here we cut two pieces of Platine into 4x5's and coated
> >as one 8x10. We dried and printed them. One 4x5 piece was from our batch
> >one was from some the Arentz brought with him. The difference was like
> >and day.
> >
> >   We have driven paper companies nuts with our testing and quality
> >One can see that what we need in a paper is not what 99.99% of their
> >customers want. We have had the Cranes rep out to our place a number of
> >times. They have spent a lot of time working with us on the black spot
> >problem. One has to give them a lot of credit for flying a rep out to
> >Fe more than once.
> >
> >   It does look like we should take another look at this paper.
> >
> >
> >   --Dick Sullivan
> >   Bostick & Sullivan
> >   www.bostick-sullivan.com
> >
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >From: Kerik [mailto:kerik@kerik.com]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
> >To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> >Subject: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)
> >
> >   I have some good paper news, especially for current and former users
> >   Cranes Platinotype (aka Cranes Crest Natural White Wove, Cranes
> >   Card Stock, Artificial Parchment, etc.)
> >
> >   With the recent problems with the "Platinotype Black Plague", many are
> >   looking for other options. There is a "new" 50-year-old paper that
> >me
> >   recently. I got a call a few weeks ago from John Zokowski from
> >   Butler-Dearden Paper Co., a Crane's distributor offering samples of
> >   Byron-Weston's Diploma Parchment paper for me to test with pt/pd
> >   (Byron-Weston is a subsidiary of Cranes.) This paper has been made for
> >   years and is used for diplomas and other formal documents. This paper
> >   manufactured a bit on the acidic side, which is a good thing for pt/pd
> >   other iron processes. No pretreatment is necessary.
> >
> >   To make a long story short, this is the paper Platinotype should have
> >   but never was (at least not for a long time.) It produces a rich black
> >a
> >   nice warm tone with pure palladium. It's a bit on the thin side at 177
> >gsm,
> >   so for large prints, in needs to be handled with care. It's also a bit
> >   the yellow side for my taste, but a whiter version and thicker version
> >   in the works. It seems to clear very easily and also seems to be
> >relatively
> >   black-spot-free. Finally, where it really shines over Platinotype is
> >   the surface remains nice and smooth after processing. It doesn't take
> >the
> >   fuzzy surface of processed Platinotype. And, to top it off, it is very
> >   reasonably priced.
> >
> >   Go here http://www.crane.com/business/weston...palladium.aspx for
> >   Contact John Zokowski for pricing and to place an order. Happy
> >
> >   Kerik Kouklis
> >   www.kerik.com
> >