RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)
Cheap. Roughly $1.15 per sheet if you buy 100 sheets of 22x34. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Moore [mailto:jeremydmoore@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:24 PM > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too) > > I haven't seen this mentioned in this discussion, but what's the price > of this paper? > > -Jeremy- > > On 11/28/06, Sandy King <sanking@clemson.edu> wrote: > > I received some 22X34" sheets of the new Weston paper yesterday and > > made a few palladium prints today. It appears to be an excellent > > paper and lives up to previous billing. The paper gives excellent > > reflective density, the coating paper is fairly smooth and does not > > need a lot of sensitizer (about 2ml of coating for a 7X17" print was > > more than enough), it clears well (in fact, came out of the potassium > > oxalate almost completely clear), and has very good detail. > > > > The RH in my printing room was about 55%. > > > > > > Sandy King > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 9:03 AM -0700 11/27/06, Richard Sullivan wrote: > > > Kerik, > > > > > > This is interesting. We have tried this paper several times and > found it > > >wanting. Kevin was doing the testing and I am not sure what he didn't > like > > >about it but I'll ask him later when he comes in. It may be the batch > you > > >are testing is good. He usually runs tests from several different > batches. > > >We have found that paper can vary from batch to batch. We have all seen > how > > >this was the case with Platine. One batch good the next one was crap. > When > > >Dick Arentz was here we cut two pieces of Platine into 4x5's and coated > them > > >as one 8x10. We dried and printed them. One 4x5 piece was from our > batch and > > >one was from some the Arentz brought with him. The difference was like > night > > >and day. > > > > > > We have driven paper companies nuts with our testing and quality > demands. > > >One can see that what we need in a paper is not what 99.99% of their > > >customers want. We have had the Cranes rep out to our place a number of > > >times. They have spent a lot of time working with us on the black spot > > >problem. One has to give them a lot of credit for flying a rep out to > Santa > > >Fe more than once. > > > > > > It does look like we should take another look at this paper. > > > > > > > > > --Dick Sullivan > > > Bostick & Sullivan > > > www.bostick-sullivan.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Kerik [mailto:kerik@kerik.com] > > >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM > > >To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > > >Subject: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too) > > > > > > I have some good paper news, especially for current and former users > of > > > Cranes Platinotype (aka Cranes Crest Natural White Wove, Cranes > Business > > > Card Stock, Artificial Parchment, etc.) > > > > > > With the recent problems with the "Platinotype Black Plague", many > are > > > looking for other options. There is a "new" 50-year-old paper that > found > > >me > > > recently. I got a call a few weeks ago from John Zokowski from > > > Butler-Dearden Paper Co., a Crane's distributor offering samples of > > > Byron-Weston's Diploma Parchment paper for me to test with pt/pd > printing. > > > (Byron-Weston is a subsidiary of Cranes.) This paper has been made > for 50+ > > > years and is used for diplomas and other formal documents. This > paper is > > > manufactured a bit on the acidic side, which is a good thing for > pt/pd and > > > other iron processes. No pretreatment is necessary. > > > > > > To make a long story short, this is the paper Platinotype should > have been > > > but never was (at least not for a long time.) It produces a rich > black and > > >a > > > nice warm tone with pure palladium. It's a bit on the thin side at > 177 > > >gsm, > > > so for large prints, in needs to be handled with care. It's also a > bit on > > > the yellow side for my taste, but a whiter version and thicker > version are > > > in the works. It seems to clear very easily and also seems to be > > >relatively > > > black-spot-free. Finally, where it really shines over Platinotype is > that > > > the surface remains nice and smooth after processing. It doesn't > take on > > >the > > > fuzzy surface of processed Platinotype. And, to top it off, it is > very > > > reasonably priced. > > > > > > Go here http://www.crane.com/business/weston...palladium.aspx for > info. > > > Contact John Zokowski for pricing and to place an order. Happy > printing! > > > > > > Kerik Kouklis > > > www.kerik.com > > > > > > >
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