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RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

Don,

I like the warm white color.

Wet strength I mentioned in a previous message. Not as good as Stonhenge, maybe a bit better than the Crane paper. But not a problem with reasonable care. Much easier to work with than 20 lb vellum, for example.

Sandy



At 10:04 PM -0500 11/28/06, Don Bryant wrote:
Sandy,

What is your impression of the paper color and wet handling?

Thanks,

Don Bryant


-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:16 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: RE: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

I received some 22X34" sheets of the new Weston paper yesterday and
made a few palladium prints today. It appears to be an excellent
paper and lives up to previous billing. The paper gives excellent
reflective density, the coating paper is fairly smooth and does not
need a lot of sensitizer (about 2ml of coating for a 7X17" print was
more than enough), it clears well (in fact, came out of the potassium
oxalate almost completely clear), and has very good detail.

The RH in my printing room was about 55%.


Sandy King








At 9:03 AM -0700 11/27/06, Richard Sullivan wrote:

   Kerik,

   This is interesting. We have tried this paper several times and found it
wanting. Kevin was doing the testing and I am not sure what he didn't like
about it but I'll ask him later when he comes in. It may be the batch you
are testing is good. He usually runs tests from several different batches.
We have found that paper can vary from batch to batch. We have all seen how
this was the case with Platine. One batch good the next one was crap. When
Dick Arentz was here we cut two pieces of Platine into 4x5's and coated

them

as one 8x10. We dried and printed them. One 4x5 piece was from our batch

and

one was from some the Arentz brought with him. The difference was like

night

and day.

   We have driven paper companies nuts with our testing and quality

demands.

One can see that what we need in a paper is not what 99.99% of their
customers want. We have had the Cranes rep out to our place a number of
times. They have spent a lot of time working with us on the black spot
problem. One has to give them a lot of credit for flying a rep out to Santa
Fe more than once.

   It does look like we should take another look at this paper.


   --Dick Sullivan
   Bostick & Sullivan
   www.bostick-sullivan.com


   -----Original Message-----
From: Kerik [mailto:kerik@kerik.com]
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:50 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: "New" Paper for Pt/Pd (and other iron processes, too)

   I have some good paper news, especially for current and former users of
   Cranes Platinotype (aka Cranes Crest Natural White Wove, Cranes Business
   Card Stock, Artificial Parchment, etc.)

   With the recent problems with the "Platinotype Black Plague", many are
   looking for other options. There is a "new" 50-year-old paper that found
me
   recently. I got a call a few weeks ago from John Zokowski from
   Butler-Dearden Paper Co., a Crane's distributor offering samples of
   Byron-Weston's Diploma Parchment paper for me to test with pt/pd

printing.

   (Byron-Weston is a subsidiary of Cranes.) This paper has been made for

50+

   years and is used for diplomas and other formal documents. This paper is
   manufactured a bit on the acidic side, which is a good thing for pt/pd

and

   other iron processes. No pretreatment is necessary.

   To make a long story short, this is the paper Platinotype should have

been

   but never was (at least not for a long time.) It produces a rich black

and

a
   nice warm tone with pure palladium. It's a bit on the thin side at 177
gsm,
   so for large prints, in needs to be handled with care. It's also a bit

on

   the yellow side for my taste, but a whiter version and thicker version

are

   in the works. It seems to clear very easily and also seems to be

 >relatively

   black-spot-free. Finally, where it really shines over Platinotype is

that

   the surface remains nice and smooth after processing. It doesn't take on
the
   fuzzy surface of processed Platinotype. And, to top it off, it is very
   reasonably priced.

   Go here http://www.crane.com/business/weston...palladium.aspx for info.
   Contact John Zokowski for pricing and to place an order. Happy printing!

   Kerik Kouklis
   www.kerik.com