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Re: flax paper and palladium



Anne,

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I'd love to see some samples, if
you've got any digitized...

Camden Hardy

camden[at]hardyphotography[dot]net
http://www.hardyphotography.net



On Thu, December 14, 2006 2:03 pm, Anne van Leeuwen & Peter Hoffman wrote:
> Chris, (and Camden)
>
> I am a papermaker so I'm happy to be able to contribute something to
> the list.  I will be teaching some of these combined processes
> probably next year at the Brimingham Bloomfield Art Center just
> outside Detroit.  I was just hired to be on their faculty.
>
> I'll mention sources for paper and info at the end of this email.
>
> Paper made from flax and abaca (a wonderful fiber from the banana
> family) are much, much stronger than any cotton, whether it's rag or
> cotton linters.  In the sheet formation process they (flax and abaca)
> have higher shrinkage so must be restrain dryed otherwise they
> shrivel up.  (That is great for some purposes, such as paper sculpture.)
>
> I've been using combinations of flax, cotton and abaca for some time
> with my alternative processes and am very happy with these fibers.
> The weight varies depending on the papermakers desires.  But both
> flax and abaca have wonderful wet strength for very thin sheets.  The
> paper will withstand repeated rinsing, I've never had any of my own
> paper fall apart on me.  (Until recently when I tried thinner sheets
> of !00% Rag, I didn't like it and won't do that again).
>
> An occasional project I'll do is make larger sheets (22X30 or larger)
> of flax paper, walnut dyed (soaked walnut hulls, you get a great
> dye).  Using cyanotype I get a navy blue that is attractive on the
> walnut colored paper.   Frequently I'll get oversized negatives made
> from Kinkos or a blueprint company and make images.   On the walnut
> dyed paper, the navy blue color and with the "unsharp" oversized
> negative I get interesting textural pieces.
>
> Also, I have toned cyanotype paper with the tannic acid rinse, then
> washing soda.  Depending on the length of time I can get an almost
> black color to the cyanotype portion.  The paper itself can be a bit
> stained but what I have done is to draw with watercolor pencils or
> watercolors on the images (usually floral photograms) and get a very
> unique image.
>
> I have a type of Hollander beater so can make the pulp myself.  It is
> expensive otherwise.  Making the paper cuts the expense way down but
> it is work and time consuming.
>
> Camden mentioned U of Iowa as a good source for the paper.  They are,
> in fact they restored the US Bill of Rights (I believe).  Great
> facilities.
>
> Also here are two other sources for those interested:
>
> Twinrocker
> www.twinrocker.com	(excellent source for information about paper and
> a place to purchase paper)
>
> And here is a book written in about 1984 called:
>
> THE NEW PHOTOGRAPHY
> by Catharine Reeve & Marilyn Sward
>
> Excellent papermakers who experimented quite a bit with alt processes.
>
> Chris, fun to hear of your experiments.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Christina Z. Anderson wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>> Yesterday I had the fun experience of collaborating with an art
>> grad student who makes her own flax paper.  She wanted to put
>> photographs on her flax sculptures, so I told her to come over to
>> my house and we'd see if it worked. I thought those on the list who
>> are paper makers might like to know this.
>>
>> I guess she buys the flax pulp from a paper supply house, which is
>> somewhat expensive--she said $100 a bucket (it comes liquid).  I
>> know NOTHING about paper making, but the flax paper is dark
>> parchment tannish, and quite textural, and very long fibered, but
>> the paper is flat and very thin. It irons well (flax being same as
>> linen, of course) and lays flat, in other words, after wet baths it
>> doesn't shrink and pucker.
>>
>> I thought it would disintegrate immediately in the development
>> bath, or whatnot.  It didn't .  We were doing small prints for
>> testing and not large though, but they held together perfectly,
>> even when I held them up by one edge. Very strong.
>>
>> I tested one with just regular pt/pd, one on top of gelatin size,
>> and one with the pt/pd cut in half with water.  The paper is very
>> absorbent so that 26 drops were sucked up into an area of, let's
>> say, 4x6.  On the gelatin size it did not soak up right away so
>> that was a good thing, so sizing could be the way to go, but the
>> print we agreed looked best was the one with pt/pd cut in half with
>> water.  It was warmer in tone (redder) than the others.
>>
>> Then after we completed this test it occurred to me that cyanotype
>> toned with tannic acid would be the cheapest and easiest way to go
>> (no development or clear baths) but what amazed me is the beautiful
>> tonal range of pt/pd on this paper.
>>
>> I also felt it would be great paper to give a final soak in wax to
>> transparentize.
>>
>> I think Camden is going to test VDB and liquid emulsion for her,
>> right Camden?  For archival purposes, I wonder if the toned cyano
>> would be best, so you don't have to mess with silver left in the
>> paper?  Nevertheless, this paper has great possibilities.  I told
>> her she should sell it, but each sheet just to make (small sheets)
>> is about $10 so selling them, she'd have to probably charge $25 for
>> say, a foot and a half square sheet?
>>
>> I wish I was a paper maker...I wonder if there is a commercial
>> source for homemade flax paper?  Someone google it for me, I have
>> to go gum print :)
>>
>> This is definitely the benefit of teaching in an art environment--
>> collaboration.  The other grad student who came over to watch does
>> large charcoal drawings, erases and redraws and erases and redraws
>> while she films the drawings over an 8 hour day, and then ends up
>> with a movie, dark and charcoaly--really beautiful.
>> Chris
>> CZAphotography.com
>>
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