Re: OT: Digital noise reduction software
This is interesting... in the 3 other lists I lurk on, this "Noise Ninja" is also being discussed..the planets must be aligning for Noise Ninja In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. Martin Luther King, Jr -----Original Message----- From: ejnphoto@sbcglobal.net To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Sent: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 8:06 PM Subject: RE: OT: Digital noise reduction software Chris, The portrait feature is absolutely great. What would take some time doing, you can do very quickly, and the more you use it the better it works. What really made me a happy camper with it, is the ability to create a layer adjustment with it, that then becomes fully adjustable in its own right. EJ & Family 10219 Lynford Dr Dallas, TX 75238 -------- From: Christopher Lovenguth [mailto:chris@chrisportfolio.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:10 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: OT: Digital noise reduction software Thanks for this info Eric. I've been using Noise Ninja with my Nikon D200 and it's been great, but now that in my commercial life I'm doing fashion digital-only, the suite package at imagenomic is a huge time saver! It took me less then 1/2hr playing with the demo before I purchased it. At $239 for all three plugins (and I'm on a really tight budget having to buy this over what I've been saving up for some other equipment) is worth the time it's going to save me editing skin texture&tones to the unrealistic requirements this industry demands. These filters, with the added film grain filter in the package, brings digital a couple inches closer to looking like film, in my humble opinion. Trust me, I shed not a happy tear in saying this, but as I inadvertently strike a nail in to film's coffin with using digital in my commercial work, I hope I'm preserving the history of photography with each Daguerreotype and Van Dyke(I still use large format 8X10 film for my prints, not digital negs) I make in my real passion, my art. Anyways, I'm not trying to sell this product to everyone, I'm just happy to know it was out there and is a tool I've been searching for. Cheers, Christopher PS - I think this list is interesting and very insightful in how it's possible that duel threads are happening that are both relevant, yet fundamentally opposing in nature to each other. One thread about digital optimization filters and another about the death of a beautiful photo paper. A product that I will greatly miss even as I have to admit the last time I printed B&W, let alone with this great paper, was about 8 years ago. I guess we are all just witnesses to a major transition in photography unlike any transition ever in it's history. I was discussing with a close photographer friend last night about how with what we all think of as "alt" processes the beauty is they can still be created by hand because that's how they originated, so they are not truly lost, just forgotten. The issue with this new transition we are witnessing is that we're moving from a machined made photographic product that we will not be able to recreate to it's precise mechanical specs in our garages or bathrooms. We will not be able to make silver-gelatin film on our own and that is a true loss, not just progress to "easier" tools. I wonder though in the long-run, is digital better for the environment and a photographer's health then all the other photographic processes? Wow long PS.... -----Original Message----- From: EJN Photo [mailto:ejnphoto@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:40 AM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: RE: OT: Digital noise reduction software Don, I did not do an extensive testing before purchase, but did buy Neat Image Pro. I have not been disappointed. I also have noise reduction software by Imagenomic. It is much more than just noise however, as it also will convert your images to B&W. I default to Neat Image most of the time. There is another plug in from Imagenomic that I use quite a lot and that is their portrait plug in. It makes short work of portrait retouching and also allows for a quick colorized look of just skin tones of B&W images coming from color originals. I think a lot has to do with how well you interface with the program. www.imagenomic.com Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 214-827-8301 Skype : ejprinter -------- From: Jack Fulton [mailto:jefulton1@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:54 AM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: OT: Digital noise reduction software A couple of thoughts. If you have been testing these cameras, it implies you've not purchased yet. I've heard Canon is coming out w/a large chipped, high mpxl camera @ PMA. A camera such as the Canon 5D allows one to make medium format looking blow-ups to 24x30 with ease, no noise and virtually no sharpening but for using their proprietary software to enlarge. If that is not the case, and through testing @ a couple of Expos, I settle on Noise Ninja. With my own Olympus 8080, a very good 8 mpxl advance amateur camera I regularly blow up images to 22x28. Admittedly they are not perfect and super sharp etc. but they do look very good. Noise Ninja inhibits the splotchy look in many open areas such as sky. On January2007, at 9:39 PM, Don Bryant wrote: Does anyone have any strong opinions about Neat Image and/or Noise Ninja? I've been testing different DSLRs, using high ISOs for RAW captures, and to my surprise the digital noise isn't as bad as I expected, though it's definitely there. So far I prefer Neat Image to Noise Ninja but I don't have the full blown versions of either package so a complete evaluation isn't possible. I'd rather not purchase both to determine which is better. I'm primarily interested in noise reduction rather than other features such as image sharpening. Any shared experience with either package (or any other) will be appreciated. TIA, Don Bryant ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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