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Re: "Tricolor gum printers" deconstructed



I probably shouldn't jump in here as I really know very little about actual gum printing (except for the excellent teaching of the gum over platinum course I took last fall with Kerik). I also appreciate Clay Harmon's gum over platinum information on the Unblinking Eye website. But I have been interested in gum printing for a while-- mostly just reading about it and seeing the work of other gum printers. So I'm interested in the tri-color gums and the difference between how a tri-color gum print might look, compared to 2 or more colors over cyanotype, and why someone might make that choice. I assume it's just easier, but I also assume there may be other reasons..

I had the opportunity, some months ago, of seeing DeCosse's gum prints in the John Stevenson gallery. At the time, I had no idea that Keith Taylor did the actual printing. I thought they were spectacular--and seemed almost heroic in the effort it must take to produce prints so exquisite. They were also very very different from gum prints I'd seen elsewhere over the years. So while I am sure that other factors are involved in the printing of those, I also wondered about the "true" tri-color gum layers he uses, as opposed to 2 gum layers over cyanotype others might use, and how that choice might effect his gum prints (or not).

At any rate, I have also read Katharine's site, which I find helpful and informative, too. Katharine herself has answered some questions I've had in the past, and while I'm sure it's obvious to her how little I know about gum printing, she has always been forthcoming and generous with her knowledge and in her answers to my questions.

So I think what she's asking is an interesting question and one I don't often see discussed. Why wouldn't everybody simply use cyanotype as the base layer? It makes sense to me, (and I've never gotten the impression--here or anywhere-- that this was somehow "cheating" or less worthy than using 3 actual layers of gum..) Obviously, though, there's a reason some wouldn't. I'm curious to know why those printers wouldn't, how their prints might appear in comparison, who those printers might be, and their approaches to their work.

Gum printing seems to offer infinite possibilities. For those who are intimately familiar with gum printing, Katharine's question and the distinction she's making might seem pointless. For the rest of us, however, that distinction might prove useful--or, at the least, an interesting observation/comparison.

Just my 2 cents.

On Jan 28, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Keith Gerling wrote:

Hey, I've got an idea. How about we just take Katherine at her word that
she is looking for people that approach the process as she does, which means
LITERALLY "three colored gums". I was excluded because I use CMYK
separations. As a person who uses gum in all sorts of configurations: with
cyano, with vandyke, three and four gum layers, etc., I would venture to say
that there is a heck of a lot more similarity between three and four color
gum printing than there is between gum over cyanotype and this should be
obvious to anyone that has explored the various options. Still, I didn't
make the cut, and I'm not interpreting Katherine's motives as being sinister
or "biased".

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King [mailto:sanking@clemson.edu]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:07 AM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re:"Tricolor gum printers" deconstructed





When I saw KT's survey my first reaction was, why in the hell would
someone think it important to make a distinction between "true gum"
prints and full color gum prints that use a cyanotype layer? Then I
thought, wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Chris
Anderson uses a cyanotype layer in her three-color prints, and she
also is an unabashed proponent of the use of carefully designed
curves?

I have no idea what Katherine's true motives are, but hopefully she
will at least provide the list with her definitive definition of a
"true gum".

Sandy King