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Re: PT/PD Mogules, Maestros & Gurus



Bob and other gurus,

More is revealed! Nadeau on page 64 of the publication cited below also
states that "An overexposed palladium print can be easily reduced if it is
left for 15 minutes or more in the regular HCl clearing bath (1 part HCl, 60
parts of water)."

He goes on to say that a Platinum image is difficult to reduce and that in
practice it is much easier and cheaper to discard the overexposed print and
make a new one.

Sorry I wasn't able to include that info in the original post.

John Roseborough
aka
Platinumprinter

----- Original Message -----
From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@caribsurf.com>
To: "'John Roseborough'" <platinumprinter@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: PT/PD MOGULS, MAESTROS & GURUS


> Thanks John,
> The reduced concentration of HCl is because of the fear of bleaching
> the palladium image but the recent posts tell me that I would need a
> dangerously concentrated HCl solution to slightly reduce the density of a
> slightly dark palladium print and that the concentrated HCl would damage
> the
> paper.
> Soooooooooooooo, we have now found one of the sources of the
> contradictory information...any one care to resolve this?
> CHEERS!
> BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Roseborough [mailto:platinumprinter@msn.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:59 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: PT/PD MOGULS, MAESTROS & GURUS
>
> Eric,
>
> In "The History and Practice of Platinum Printing" by Luis Nadeau (2nd
> edition) page 32, Nadeau states that HCl is to be used highly diluted to
> 1% - 1.5% for Platinum and 0.5% for Palladium.
>
> John Roseborough
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Neilsen" <ejnphoto@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:46 AM
> Subject: RE: PT/PD MOGULS, MAESTROS & GURUS
>
>
>> Chris, WHERE is that note taken from?
>>
>> Eric Neilsen Photography
>> 4101 Commerce Street
>> Suite 9
>> Dallas, TX 75226
>> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
>> http://ericneilsenphotographycom
>> Skype ejprinter
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christina Z. Anderson [mailto:zphoto@montana.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:43 AM
>>> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>>> Subject: Re: PT/PD MOGULS, MAESTROS & GURUS
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>> Even tho I have hydrochloric acid I have never used it to reduce a
>>> print.
>>> My notes say "palladium is more soluble in strong acids, so if you use
>>> hydrochloric acid, the traditional clearing bath, your dilution of that
>>> clearing bath is 0.5%, not 1% as it is with platinum." I, too, am
>>> interested
>>> if this is wrong? And I wonder if it will work when using
>>> NA2/palladium...hmmm...I have a too dark print, maybe I should just go
>>> do
>>> it.
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> > DEAR PT/PD MOGULS, MAESTROS & GURUS ON THIS LIST,
>>> > Please help me resolve what appears to be a conflict in both the
>>> > literature and common wisdom.
>>> > Here are the two conflicting bits of info:
>>> > 1) You must not use a hydrochloric first clearing bath when printing
>>> with
>>> > palladium as it will bleach the print, even though the concentration
>>> > should
>>> > be around 1 to 1.5 %.
>>> > 2) Recently, when I asked the list if there was any way to slightly
>>> reduce
>>> > the density of a Palladium print I was told that the concentration of
>>> HCl
>>> > necessary to have any effect would be so high that it would be
>>> > dangerous
>>> > to
>>> > use in a regular darkroom and might have deleterious effects on the
>>> paper.
>>> > I was told to just make another, lighter print.
>>> > *********So, you can see my dilemma.  Is this not a contradiction?
>>> > 'Tis
>>> a
>>> > puzzlement!  Please enlighten me...as it were!
>>> > CHEERS!> BOB
>>>
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