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Dear Susan, Jon and Keith
                    No no no no............I am not discouraged. Having
trained as an apprenticed hand engraver on metals for seven years back in
the sixties I am not short of patience when it comes to obtaining desired
results from a  printing process. I am a pictorialist and aim to make
impressionist  camera generated images in multiples. Gravure reproduction
very much appeals to me especially  when the working of the technique allows a certain ammount of manipulation with regard to contrast of the final
                     However, as I am not a very wealthy man  I need to find
ways of reducing the very high costs of equipment such as roller press,
gravure plates, etc., etc.,   This is my personal project which I hope can
be shared with several other members of this List (six hundred + strong) who
must be drooling at the  pristine images appearing on the web sites you are
highlighting,  Altho' I admire the enormous ammount of  technical effort
which obviously has been used to produce these images and the subjects are
incredibly beautiful , this is not my genre of artistic creativity, and I do
not aim to emulate. There is room for all tastes. This has often been stated
on this list.
                                    The similarity of Gravure to other photo ink 
transfer   processes such as Oil Printing, Bromoil Transfer, Photo Lithography, Screen, Collotype and other fancy names is what is so attractive to me and I thank you for bringing so much enthusiasm to the current scene regarding the Gravure  process.
                    Press on with the challenge.
                      Best. John - Photographist - London - UK

 Original Message -----
From: "SusanV" <
To: <
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Plate Cutter/Draw Tool


No no no don't be discouraged about the polymer plates :o)

This is just a minor problem for me personally since I don't have a
good old quillotine paper cutter, which apparently works great.  I'm
going to pick up a used on on ebay I think, then I'll be good to go.

The plate's surface is a bit tacky and is covered with a clear acetate
sheet for protection.  You remove that after cutting and just before
exposure.  The edge of that acetate can lift up a bit though, and if
there are little steel shavings along the edge... they can get under

I think maybe there ARE some with a plastic base, but I believe from
what I've read recently that these Printight KM73 plates are the very
best for detail and smooth tone.

Stick around and we'll all get this figured out for you :o)  In the
meantime be sure to go look at the links on my blog... Jon and Keith
know what they're doing.  I've seen Keith's work in person, and it's


On 3/15/07, John Grocott <
john.grocott403@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Hi Susan, As I am not acquainted with polymer plates such as the steel
> ones
> you are using, I can only imagine how annoying it must be with the
> shavings.
> My experience with dust grain gravure on copper plates, approx fifteen
> years
> back, was enough for me to shelve the project, altogether, like yourself.
> But I was under the impression that  phtopolymer plates were now being
> produced with a type of plastic base. Maybe it was in my dreams of a
> really
> user friendly  non -etch gravure process coming to light.  I find your
> blog
> etc., is very impressive and inspiring. Thanks.
> Regards.  John- Photographist - London - UK
> .......................................................................................................
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SusanV" <
> To: <
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Plate Cutter/Draw Tool
> John,
> Thanks for the info and link!
> I have a draw blade but have had trouble with the steel shavings it
> creates getting stuck to the rather sticky surface of the polymer.
> They don't just brush off the way they do with zinc or copper plates.
> That's why I'm exploring other ways.  happy though for any and all
> suggestions :o)
> Susan
> On 3/13/07, John Grocott <
john.grocott403@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A tool for scoring deep cuts in plates by removing the actual material,
> > metal or plastic, which then enables the sheet to be divided by snapping
> > can
> > be purchased from a printmakers suppliers.Its called a ''Draw Tool'' and
> > has
> > been used for many years by printmakers. ( approx. 20-00)
> >
> >           Best of luck .
> >                     John Grocott- Photographist- London - UK
> --
> susan
> gravure blog at
> website www.dalyvoss.com

gravure blog at
website www.dalyvoss.com