RE: RE: Satista question
Thanks Philippe. But, to what should I pay attention? I plan to use 2% Citric Acid as wash water before toning - that's what I do with my POP Pd, Vandyke and Argyrotype prints... Regards, Loris. -----Original Message----- From: payral@club-internet.fr [mailto:payral@club-internet.fr] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:29 PM To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: RE: Satista question You need some pd or pt to get image but you can go down to 1 drop pt ot pd for a 8x10 print. First washing after development is very treacky, be very carefull. Philippe Ayral http://payral.club.fr ----Message d'origine---- >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:13:52 +0200 >De: Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name> >Sujet: RE: Satista question >A: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > >Thanks Marek. I'll have to use Pd then, since I have very little >(>10ml) Pt solution. If 1 drop of Li2[PdCl4] per 25-30 drops of 20% AFO >is enough for a print with good Dmax that's fine for me... (I don't >care much about the color right now -> will tone the image with >Gold/Thiourea >toner) > >What are the effects of playing with solution strenghts? For instance, >can I use 40% AFO for faster printing times? Should I also change the >4% AgNO3 solution strength accordingly? Will using a stronger >sensitizer give me better/stronger Dmax? How is Satista Dmax compared >to POP (or >DOP) Palladium prints? What can you say about the characteristic curve >of the paper? I guess it will need digital negatives with less drastic >curves adjustment -> due to lack of print-out... > >Thanks again, >Loris. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marek Matusz [mailto:marekmatusz@hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:44 PM >To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca >Subject: RE: Satista question > > >Loris, >I tried omitting platinum form the formula for satista prints and it >did not work. No image was formed with exposure times similar to what I >have worked for satista process. I do not have my notes handy at the >moment, but I can check later of what noble metals I have tried. I >vaguely remember tryig palladium and gold as a noble metal sensitizer >for the process. Platinum works the best and that is what I mostly use. >I'll get back to you later on this. Marek > > > >From: Loris Medici <mail@loris.medici.name> >Reply-To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca >To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca >Subject: Satista question >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:32:44 +0200 > > >Hi all, I have a question for Satista printers (Marek M? Philippe A? >...?): > >I want to try Satista prints for sake of economy -> I have little Pt >and Pd on hands (which I can't obtain in Istanbul - have to import; I >real PIA with current customs regulations) but I can buy AgNO3 and >K[AuCl4] locally - at very low cost... Question is: Do I strictly need >any Pt or Pd salt for making Satista prints (I guess they fuction as >catalysts rather than image-forming substances)? Can I make good >Satista prints w/o using any noble metal salt, by just using Ammonium >Iron(III) Oxalate as sensitizer and AgNO3 as developer? > >Thanks in advance, >Loris.
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