| To the six 
hundred,Apologies for what might be regarded as
 a waste of space, but I needed, in 
an attempt to preserve  some of my
 integrity, to reply, in public, to 
Judy's slightly
 acerbic complement (?) in being compared to ''ERIE''. 
Thanks,again, Judy,
 for your supperriouer litrerry addvice.
 He He He He 
He He He He He He  etc.,...................
 
 Now, I'm really getting 
angry.
 Wham ! !  Pow ! ! !
 John- Diminutive Photographist - London - 
UK
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 ----- 
Original Message -----
 From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
 To: "The List" <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:35 
AM
 Subject: Re: Attn. Sandy King + All Re the viability of Direct Carbon 
Paper.
 >
 J.
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 Actually John, I'm a little afraid of you, tho not yet afraid of Erie, 
but
 I think you need the same advice; DON'T put so much info in a single 
long
 paragraph without line spaces. VERY hard to read, definitely against 
a
 steep gradient. For some of us ancient decrepit bifocal-wearing 
relics,
 reading on the monitor is already a pain.
 
 And for the love of 
heaven, SKIP A LINE BETWEEN PARAGRAPHS. You're not
 paying for 
paper.
 
 Just look what it looks 
like:
 
 J.
 
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 On Sun, 27 May 2007, John Grocott wrote:
 
 > Sandy, I 
have felt this same reticence you display for many years and I
 > might 
have agreed there was no commercial market for this Direct Carbon
 > 
product, at present, in TODAY'S WORLD. I feel that this climate will
 > 
change in the near future. (B & S please note.) Photography is a young
 > science ( approx. 170 years old) and there have been great social
 > upheavals in society which have slowed the merging of artistic 
evolution
 > with photographic techniques. Younger generations learn from 
what was
 > discovered by pioneers and then there is a demand, once more, 
for products
 > for the practice of these obscured techniques. 
Digitalisation cannot
 > provide everything to satisfy searching artistic 
drive. The computer is
 > common place, today and cannot provide the 
theraputic needs of people in
 > practicing something as satisfying as 
developing your own films or making
 > your own prints. Now, electronics 
and improved communication systems has
 > made this merging even easier. 
Maybe the sale of Direct Carbon paper would
 > not take off without a lot 
of promotion and tight maunufacturing controls
 > but , certainly, 
knowledge of the subject and how to provide one's own
 > materials ( as 
Echague did ) is a very viable product. A similar situation
 > exists with 
Bromoil. It is part of Information Technology ( IT ) which is
 > just a 
hyped up way of saying, ''Learning how to do something''. The
 > latest 
zip phrase is, I believe, ''Information + Communication
 > Technology.'' ( 
ICT ). This is a very commercially viable product, in
 > itself, in 
today's world.
 > Maybe, as you suggest, I will eventually publish and 
share what I have
 > learned with the rest of us. I will endeavour to try 
to make you happier.
 > Hope you are settling with pleasure into your 
recent retirement from your
 > previous employment. I did this eight years 
ago and still cannot find
 > enough time to devote to photography 
.
 > Regards. John -Photographist - London- UK
 > 
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 > 
Sandy wrote:-
 > ''I could be wrong, and nothing would make me happier than 
to see you
 > or Dave or Art make so much money from your labours that you 
will set
 > up your grandchildren for life, but this boy just don't see 
that
 > happening, and my suggestion would be to just share what you 
have
 > learned with the rest of us.
 >
 > I hate to rain on the 
parade but I just don't believe there is any
 > commercial market for this 
product in today's world.
 >
 > Sandy 
King''
 
 
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