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Re: OT: Facebook WAS OT: HDR and Tone Mapping B&W Images

Yes you do, with some caveats.

1)  The maximum image size they display on-site is less than 640x480 (604 pixels is the maximum vertically). So, I always upload images no larger than that.  What little promotional use they can get out of small imagery like that is fine for me,.

2)  The use they put it to MUST be in connection with the site or its promotion.

3)  Sublicenses would be subject to the very restrictions of item #2.

4)  So, they could only sell small versions of the imagery (or crappy blowups) for those purposes, even if their license allows sale (see item #6).

5)  Finally, they only have a use license, not a transfer of copyright.

6)  Absent an explicit grant of rights to sale, they cannot sell the images even with the terms of that license. The license itself only grants the right to sublicense (probably so they don't face potential suit if they outsource ad work to sub-contractors).

7)  It's a non-exclusive license. (see item #5)

Jeremy Moore wrote:
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Bruce and for anyone else using Facebook I would like to point you to
this section of their terms of use:

"By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically
grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant,
to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable,
fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use,
copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt
(in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose
on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare
derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User
Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

Basically, by uploading anything to Facebook you give them all rights
to use it however they want to including selling it.


On 8/15/07, Bruce <steelbar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Don
The Sky effect comes from playing(maybe over playing) with the tone-mapping
settings. I have added a image that has not been over manipulated and it is
much more natural. I only used 7 images at one stop intervals so it may be
different if you use more images. The images that I am doing for work are
interiors with windows and I have been able to correctly balance the
interior and the exterior using this program as well as it gives an almost
painting with light appearance. I had not done any B&W until 10 minutes ago.
There is an example in my Face book file.

On 14-Aug-07, at 9:02 PM, Don Bryant wrote:


Interesting work. One thing I do have a problem with that I see in a lot of
HDR work and in your examples (particularly in the third shot) are the heavy
effects in the sky areas. Is that due to the tone mapping? Is there any way
to get around that? And have you done any B&W work with HDR? All of the
shots work pretty good though.




From: Bruce [mailto:steelbar@shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:38 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: OT: HDR and Tone Mapping B&W Images

Hi Don

I have just started with Photometrix Pro and have some interesting results.
Note, they have a very good educational discount if you are eligible. Here
are 3 images on my facebook site that were just for fun. I also have some
images on my computer that I need to do for work. Photometrix is easy to
work with and its alt, sort of. I thing that I first read about it in an
article by Dan:


Thanks Dan

Here's the three pictures.




On 14-Aug-07, at 7:42 PM, Don Bryant wrote:

Dear Fellow Listees,

This is way off topic but is anyone using PS or Photomatix software to

create HDR Tone Mapped black & white images?


Don Bryant




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