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Re: Christina's book was Re: Beware of Amazon.com

Thanks for the kind words, Jean!  

Let me tell you another thing about PhotoEye, why they are
slow in shipping the book.  I have had to adopt the policy,
after they have owed me over $600 twice now, to not send
them books until payment is received. This takes time.  I am
not the only author who has had to adopt this policy with
them, btw.  I used to think I was the only one picked on,
but talked with a couple others who have had to adopt the
same policy or the bill starts getting so big that your
hopes of ever getting paid get slim.  Sorry you had to wait
so long for the book, because at Malin's site I send the
books flat rate envelope immediately, and the longest it
takes is 3 wks and that is to, i think, Australia and
Africa.  Only once did a book get lost in the mail, too,
with that service (though I can't track a package that way).

That said, PhotoEye's website and catalog are stellar, as
well as their photographer's website, so they provide an
incredible place for photography books.  So in a way I am
honored to be part of their business.

----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Jean Daubas <jean.daubas@wanadoo.fr>
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Christina's book   was Re: Beware of Amazon.com
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:04:44 +0200

>Hi Christina and all of you alt processes lovers !
>Postman brought to me this morning a big package from 
>"PhotoEye".  And  guess what was in it ?  Christina's  
>"Alternatives processes condensed"  along with some other
>beautiful photo books. but I must say : I ordered this book
>to PhotoEye on ...May 25;  my mistake  was probably to
>order a signed copy by the famous author/ alt proc list 
>fellow.  And PhotoEye had to wait for Christina taking time
>for  "being in  town"  to sign her book.
>Now reading your post, Christina, I wonder why i did not
>order from Malin  Fabbri's site !  I love her
>alternativephoto.com site, where i display some  examples
>of my pictures ; I was included in her 2006 book "Alt
>Photography  Book : art and artists"
>In fact, PhotoEye has the advantage of offering a huge
>variety of books in  all fields of photography, most of
>them I cannot find in France. Their site  is a true
>pleasure for people loving photo-books, old or contemporary
>Now, back to Christina's book : I had just very little time
>to go through it  : seems very clear, pragmatic facts
>covering plenty of our be-loved  processes...  Very eager
>to use it and compare  with my other preferred  ressources
>(Barnier's "coming into focus" and  -obviously-  Judy's
>wonderful  series of Post Factory Journal issues).
>Thanks Christina for our efforts to share your experiments
>and to all alt-processes friends of the list , all my best
>cheers from  france
>Jean Daubas, auteur-photographe
>16 rue de Bourg-Sec
>25440 LIESLE    (France)
>+33 (0)3 81 57 50 13   et +33 (0)6 81 53 12 89
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Christina Z. Anderson" <zphoto@montana.net>
>To: "Alt, List" <alt-photo-process-L@usask.ca>
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Beware of Amazon.com
>> Wow, so I went online Amazon and checked...
>> Yeah, my Tutti Nudi, an essentially $14 book is $65 (!)
>> So from the self-publishing standpoint, here are my
>> thoughts (Tutti is not self published).
>> I, too, like Thom below, buy many books from Amazon and
>> really appreciate their usual prices and their free
>> shipping on orders over a certain price AND I get the
>> books immediately. But I can't believe they charge 60%. 
>I would have to raise the price of my books if I sold
>> I suffer from PhotoEye carrying my books and taking a 40%
>> profit which essentially makes me profit not even $5 a
>> book. AND to top that one, they now make us pay shipping
>> to them AND we are not allowed to ask for payment except
>>once every 6 months.  I only carry them there for
>> exposure.  Experimental is $43 and Alt is $38.50 on
>> Amazon I see--(both the latter  are
>> available for $38 which includes shipping
>> in the U.S. on alternativephotography.com). But a plug
>> for Petra Keller at Camerabooks.com who is the
>> seller--the only reason she has the latter two  at
>> a bit inflated price is to
>> actually make a profit since Amazon charges so much.
>> I don't know who the heck is selling Tutti Nudi at
>>$65--certainly not her! 
>> So basically if people want my books I direct them to two
>> places--Malin Fabbri's website first, because it is
>> Paypal and she is so efficient and nice.  I even prefer
>> going through her than selling the book out of my own
>house even though I pay her a percentage because I believe
>>in her website. 
>> Plus she is so nice and efficient and Paypal is hassle
>> free!  AND I mail my books flat rate out to all over the
>> world because her website is global--expensive postage
>> but incredibly efficient (except lately I have found it
>> to take about 3 weeks to get to even Europe).
>> And next, Freestyle has both my books in their catalog
>> and they are a  total
>> joy to work with--they order 10 or 20 at a time, pay for
>> shipping, and PAY me in full Net30. Plus they have a 5000
>>catalog distribution a month. 
>> The downside to self-publishing as I bet Judy can
>> attest--big bucks out at the offset, a lot of legwork for
>> little money, and sometimes snafus--the shipment of Alt I
>> picked up yesterday has all color images in it collated
>> wrong....back to the printer. Chris

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