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RE: Van Dyke question(s)


Joe Smeiglitz <sp?> has a nice web page that compares different toners (and
their effects on print color) for VDB. I can't recall the link but perhaps
he will post it here.

Don Bryant

-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:53 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Van Dyke question(s)

A friend has a commission for a series of prints in Van Dyke Brown, which 
she loves... but my experience with a beautiful VDB given to me by someone 
else and left out in normal living-room light (fluorescent, however) is 
that it faded noticeably -- in about 10 years. Though meanwhile I have a 
VDB on glass by Galina that's been hanging in a window for several years 
and shows no change at all... I figure, however, that it must have been 

So I told her that:

1. The prints wouldn't be archival unless they were toned, and,

2. Gold toning wouldn't seriously change the color (which was much of the 

But then I thought, it's at least 10 years -- maybe more -- since I gold 
toned a VDB.  Do I *really* remember the color? So I said, I'll ask The 
List... "they'll know."

I'm also going to give her Liam's wonderful article about "Make your own 
gold chloride" from P-F, though she said she doesn't have any gold teeth 
or old wedding rings tucked away. (Possibly a gold coin or two, tho my 
guess would be that the coin is worth more than the equivalent amount of 
gold dust would cost.)

Anyway, comments on toning VDB for archivality, et al., would be much 
appreciated...  (I also toned VDB with palladium toner, which gave a rich 
deep black, but this quest is for the beautiful VDB brown.  Would selenium 
work?  Can you still get selenium?)