Re: Anthotypes

[liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>]

Peg,
 Hi again.. Question.. Mordant.. What mordant would you suggest?   
 Fading is fine for this project.
Liz

> [Original Message]
> From: <pfredi@bellsouth.net>
> To: <ituttie@earthlink.net>
> Cc: liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>; <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> Date: 2/28/2008 11:32:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Anthotypes
>
> Liz, do you by any chance live in Maine??  if youre gonna use
blueberries. boil them down and concentrate the juice. the more
concentrated the better the dye, plus you can add a mordant to make the dye
more intense, however keep in mind that over time it will fade. natural
dying is really fun and kids love it. peg
>
> --
> Peg Fredi
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Peg,
> > 
> >  Thank you.. I will have some more questions I am sure as I get into
this..
> > That is interesting about the blue dyes.. I am going to try blueberries
as
> > they are local and abundant. So many of these kids have them in their
back
> > yards so I am going to give it a try this weekend.. I thought cooking
them
> > down might give  more color since they are so moist anyway. Blueberry
pie
> > stains so, but fresh uncooked berries don't have as much staining power.
> > 
> > Thanks for your input I will get back to you.
> > Liz
> > 
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: <pfredi@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: <ituttie@earthlink.net>; <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> > > Cc: liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>
> > > Date: 2/27/2008 8:18:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Anthotypes
> > >
> > >
> > > liz,
> > >  I have done quite a bit of natural dying for fiber and have a number
of
> > sources of herbs, roots , nuts and berries that woiuld be gereeat for
> > anthrotypes. one thing you have to be careful about is blue dyd stuff.
they
> > arent colorfast. there are some mordating you can do with the paper or
> > fabric before you use the natural dyes to intensify the color  and keep
> > them more colorfast, but it would increase the bleaching time for your
> > print. some things that are probably readilly available fairly soon are
> > dandilions. with a few different mordants you can get anything from a
> > bright yellow to a golden yellow. purple cabbage will also give a nice
> > pinkish purple. if you get a grocery store to raid their onion bins, you
> > can get yellow and purple onion skins that work well also. the natural
dyes
> > are very safe for children and are a blast to do with them. let me know
if
> > i can help further. peg
> > > --
> > > Peg Fredi
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all, Cyanotypes are a possibility but I am really looking
into
> > > > the anthotypes for the back to nature sort of idea also. The school
is
> > > > reall looking for a real organic, back to nature experience.  
> > > > 
> > > >  I find the blueberry idea intriguing,since we are in blueberry
> > country. I
> > > > am wondering if cooking them down might be an advantage as the raw
> > interior
> > > > is not that intense. I will experiment.. 
> > > > Jalo ,  4 days .. wow.. 
> > > > 
> > > > Liz
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield@bellsouth.net>
> > > > > To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
> > > > > Date: 2/26/2008 5:46:35 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Anthotypes
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone on the portfolio exchange, a couple of years ago,
included  
> > > > > one as I remember.  It was really beautiful and very delicate- 
> > > > > looking.  She also said it took several days of exposure.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would have thought cyanotypes (which would be quicker,
certainly)  
> > > > > were relatively non-toxic-- as long as people wear gloves, and  
> > > > > everything is mixed up ahead of time, so no one is messing around

> > > > > with powders.  Would making cyanotypes be too toxic for children??
> > > > >
> > > > > Diana
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Feb 26, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Projekti Vedos wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Elizabeth
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm no expert, but tried some blueberry anthotypes couple of
years  
> > > > > > ago (still interested to continue), one of the prints can be
seen
> > at:
> > > > > > http://photoporkkala.com/gallery2/index-1.html
> > > > > > and there on the second thumbnail page - the "magenta"
blueberry   
> > > > > > anthotype  test print, it was exposed for about four days in
the  
> > > > > > sun...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -jalo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: liz tuttie <ituttie@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 21:41
> > > > > > Subject: Anthotypes
> > > > > > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, I would like some input and any experiences any of you may
> > > > > > > have with working with nontoxic organic photosensitive
> > > > > > > materials. I have been working with platinum/palladium for a
> > > > > > > while and would like any input from anyone on working with
> > > > > > > plants/ flowers/ juices  etc.  This is for a project
> > > > > > > based on "the organic "  that is brining community artists
> > > > > > > together with kids and adults. So .. Non toxic would be the
key
> > > > > > > here with the kids..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > Elizabeth Tuttie
> > > > > > > http://photosplatinum.com
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