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Re: Replacing my old 1280 with....?

Hi Kerik,

just a polite/friendly reply :-) not worth getting an argument over.

On 3800 and switching ink from this website:

Epson claims that switching from PK to MK uses 1.52 mL of ink and that
switching from MK to PK uses 4 mL of ink.

Here are the results from my own testing.

Switching from PK to MK takes 2:04 minutes. According to the printer
panel, 2% of MK ink is used in the process. 2% of 80 mL is 1.6 mL of ink,
so this is comparable to Epson's claim of 1.52 mL. No other inks are
consumed during the switch. As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL,
so the cost of switching from PK to MK is about 85 cents.

Switching from MK to PK takes 3:07 minutes. According to the printer
panel, 5% of PK ink is used in the process. 5% of 80 mL is 4 mL of ink, so
this matches Epson's claim. No other inks are consumed during the switch.
As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL, so the cost of switching
from MK to PK is about $2.25.




> I've got a 3800 and love it for digital negs and prints. Been using it
> problem free for over a year.
> Huib is mistaken about this Epson. It does NOT require any
> swapping/purging
> when switching from matt to gloss ink. It has all cartridges installed and
> swithes automatically depending on the media you specify in the driver.
> Kerik
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Huib Smeets huib@huibsmeets.com
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:37:48 +0100 (CET)
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: Replacing my old 1280 with....?
> Susan,
> I'm just reading along here, not really doing alt stuff myself, so I can't
> comment on inkjet, inkts and UV properties for digital negatives.
> I recently bought a Canon ipf5100 (17") printer. It is a nice machine for
> those that print on matt and glossy media equally as it does not require
> any inkt swapping/purging/cleaning as with the Epsons. It's more expensive
> then an Epson 3800 but cheaper then the Epson 4880 model.
> I'm very please with the deepness of the matt black inkts. I never liked
> the matt papers from the wet darkroom but now I'm a bit in shock&awe that
> I like the matt inkjets better then prints on glossy media. Exactly the
> other way around as with prints from the wet darkroom....
> The printer seems also to be reasonable frugal with inks, expected more
> ink usage.
> Oh, and not to forget :-) great prints, great color, nobanding or any
> other symptoms of poor design/performance.
> The previous model (ipf500) was hampered by poor user documentation, Canon
> has improved a lot here, I had no trouble in setting up the printer.
> Huib
>> Hi all,
>> I just posted this question at Hybrid, but also wanted to toss it out
>> here,
>> 'cause I need all the advice I can get.
>> I haven't been around here much 'cause i've been working on an
>> exhibition
>> of
>> my paintings these past few months, but now that's hanging, and I'm
>> itching
>> to get back to making some digital negs and photogravures. I'm also
>> ready
>> to replace my old 1280 printer.
>> I'm thinking about the Canon 9000, 9500, or maybe even an Epson 3800.
>> What I want to print:
>> 1.... colorized digital negatives with PDN, for making photogravure
>> printing
>> plates. (My Epson 1280's inks worked great for the degree of UV blocking
>> I
>> need.)
>> 2... "giclees" (i hate that word), of my paintings. Full color on matte
>> surface
>> fine art papers. Of course I want rich darks, which I worry about on a
>> matte
>> paper...
>> 3... and finally, I'd like to make some b&w prints of some of my photos
>> as
>> well,
>> which I will likely work into with paint or ink or whatever.
>> I've been reading every review and forum post I can find about these and
>> other printers, but I'm more confused than enlightened. There's just too
>> much conflicting info, and a lot of outdated info as well. Any advice
>> you'd
>> be
>> willing to offer would be SO appreciated. I'm ready to order it asap,
>> but
>> I
>> need your guidance on what will work best for me.
>> thanks!
>> Susan
>> --
>> Susan Daly Voss
>> ___________________________________________________
>> March 2008 gallery exhibition "Duet" at www.dalyvoss.com
>> gravure blog at www.susanvossgravures.blogspot.com
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