Re: Replacing my old 1280 with....?
Huib, Um, I'm not arguing, are you? :-) I just wanted to point out the facts because the ink switching issue is in my opinion a real selling point for the 3800. Cheers, Kerik :-) Original Message: ----------------- From: Huib Smeets huib@huibsmeets.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:09:39 +0100 (CET) To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: Replacing my old 1280 with....? Hi Kerik, just a polite/friendly reply :-) not worth getting an argument over. On 3800 and switching ink from this website: people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/dp/Epson3800/faq.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Epson claims that switching from PK to MK uses 1.52 mL of ink and that switching from MK to PK uses 4 mL of ink. Here are the results from my own testing. Switching from PK to MK takes 2:04 minutes. According to the printer panel, 2% of MK ink is used in the process. 2% of 80 mL is 1.6 mL of ink, so this is comparable to Epson's claim of 1.52 mL. No other inks are consumed during the switch. As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL, so the cost of switching from PK to MK is about 85 cents. Switching from MK to PK takes 3:07 minutes. According to the printer panel, 5% of PK ink is used in the process. 5% of 80 mL is 4 mL of ink, so this matches Epson's claim. No other inks are consumed during the switch. As of October 2007, ink costs around $0.56/mL, so the cost of switching from MK to PK is about $2.25. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, Huib > I've got a 3800 and love it for digital negs and prints. Been using it > problem free for over a year. > > Huib is mistaken about this Epson. It does NOT require any > swapping/purging > when switching from matt to gloss ink. It has all cartridges installed and > swithes automatically depending on the media you specify in the driver. > > Kerik > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Huib Smeets huib@huibsmeets.com > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:37:48 +0100 (CET) > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: Replacing my old 1280 with....? > > > Susan, > > I'm just reading along here, not really doing alt stuff myself, so I can't > comment on inkjet, inkts and UV properties for digital negatives. > > I recently bought a Canon ipf5100 (17") printer. It is a nice machine for > those that print on matt and glossy media equally as it does not require > any inkt swapping/purging/cleaning as with the Epsons. It's more expensive > then an Epson 3800 but cheaper then the Epson 4880 model. > > I'm very please with the deepness of the matt black inkts. I never liked > the matt papers from the wet darkroom but now I'm a bit in shock&awe that > I like the matt inkjets better then prints on glossy media. Exactly the > other way around as with prints from the wet darkroom.... > > The printer seems also to be reasonable frugal with inks, expected more > ink usage. > > Oh, and not to forget :-) great prints, great color, nobanding or any > other symptoms of poor design/performance. > > The previous model (ipf500) was hampered by poor user documentation, Canon > has improved a lot here, I had no trouble in setting up the printer. > > Huib > >> Hi all, >> >> I just posted this question at Hybrid, but also wanted to toss it out >> here, >> 'cause I need all the advice I can get. >> >> I haven't been around here much 'cause i've been working on an >> exhibition >> of >> my paintings these past few months, but now that's hanging, and I'm >> itching >> to get back to making some digital negs and photogravures. I'm also >> ready >> to replace my old 1280 printer. >> >> I'm thinking about the Canon 9000, 9500, or maybe even an Epson 3800. >> >> What I want to print: >> >> 1.... colorized digital negatives with PDN, for making photogravure >> printing >> >> plates. (My Epson 1280's inks worked great for the degree of UV blocking >> I >> need.) >> >> 2... "giclees" (i hate that word), of my paintings. Full color on matte >> surface >> fine art papers. Of course I want rich darks, which I worry about on a >> matte >> >> paper... >> >> 3... and finally, I'd like to make some b&w prints of some of my photos >> as >> well, >> which I will likely work into with paint or ink or whatever. >> >> I've been reading every review and forum post I can find about these and >> other printers, but I'm more confused than enlightened. There's just too >> much conflicting info, and a lot of outdated info as well. Any advice >> you'd >> be >> willing to offer would be SO appreciated. I'm ready to order it asap, >> but >> I >> need your guidance on what will work best for me. >> >> thanks! >> Susan >> -- >> Susan Daly Voss >> ___________________________________________________ >> March 2008 gallery exhibition "Duet" at www.dalyvoss.com >> >> gravure blog at www.susanvossgravures.blogspot.com >> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting |