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Re: QuestionS for Henk Thijs re: rabbit skin glue

On 27 mrt 2008, at 6:06, Judy Seigel wrote:

Henk, having had a package of rabbitskin glue taking up space in my
studio these 10 years, I'm going to try this (after digging out my doublesided thermometer to deal with 40 degrees celsius). But I'm wondering how you keep the glue at 40 degrees the whole time...

Do you have an immersion coil you can set? Or submerge in a larger vessel at 40 degrees?


Hi Judy,
I bought some time ago on a boot sale a small electric heater where i can keep more or less 40 degrees Celsius with the 'bain marie' method (no big deal if it is plusminus 5 degrees)
It is like handling gelatine for preparing gum papers and you have a lot of experience with that ,or ?? :-)

And one other question: You say if the paper isn't flat, tape a piece of flat paper on the edge. Is there any reason not to flatten a curly paper in a drymount press, or with a clothing iron, or simply under weight as in a book press for a few days?

Yes, that is ok, bit I used some Hahnemuehle paper of about 200 grs, and the flattening was very difficult, and also for the plotter-foil i use for digital negs -very thin- it is advisable to do so to avoid paper jam.

Just one other thing, I use only pigment based ink (i ordered some from INKSUPPLY and fill the Epson 1290 cartridges myself, but that is another story) , that works best for me and is more archival.




On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, henk thijs wrote:

Hi Randi,
My process:

15 to 20 grs crystals in 100 ml tapwater;
wait 15 min -like preparing gelatine-;
add another 100 ml water;
heat until 60 to 65 degree Celsius;
down to about 40 degree Celsius (to avoid blistering);
now i cover a tray with hot water with a piece of glas, put the paper on it and coat with a foam brush,
let it dry and coat a second time.

(keep the glue at t40 degrees the whole time you work with it, it is not good to let it down and heat again)


On 25 mrt 2008, at 23:30, pulpfic@telus.net wrote:

Hi Henk,
At 02:33 PM 12/5/07 +0100, you wrote:
that is the reason i mentioned the rabbit glue coating; with the glue it acts like a real inkjet-paper (so one can use all the paper one collected over the years .....:-).
I've purchased the rabbit skin glue (in dry form) to make papers receptive to inkjet printing.
On the package it says 3 tablespoons glue crystals to one quart water (about 45 ml glue crystals to a litre of water), but this is for sizing fabric to paint on; is that a good recipe for coating papers for inkjet? Also, do you coat by dunking paper in a tray, or would you brush the glue onto the paper?
Thanks for your advise, past and future.
Take care,
And for the transparencies .... to coat the clear material is cheaper and if the negative is not ok, just in hot water and you can use it again.
On the other hand if money is not the point why messing around .... :-)
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Ms Randi DeLisle
bookbinder, publisher, printmaker & photographer
pulp fictions & pulp fictions press
Grand Forks BC Canada pulpfic (at) telus.net
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