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Re: Gum over Cyanotypes



Yes, probably so... But that's impossible; for consistency I let the gum
layer in peace for several minutes (7-8 mins. average), then dry it with a
hairdryer until it doesn't shine like wet and it's dry to touch (not tacky
anymore), then I humidify both front and back using a sonic humidifier
(you should see me doing it; it's a ritual - totally consistent movements
and timing, almost OC behavior - hehehe). Humidity is what I need in paper
so that the gum exposures aren't too long. (+ I'm not sure, but, maybe dry
gum layer is more contrasty too? - Don't want that!)

If I can't affix the paper to a dimensionally stable support then I have
to learn to expose the cyanotype layer when the paper is equally humid (=
relaxed) as when printing gum - that seems to be the most feasible /
doable procedure. Don't you think?

Regards,
Loris.


28 Nisan 2009, Salı, 7:31 pm tarihinde, davidhatton@totalise.co.uk yazmış:
>
>  Hi Loris,
>  Maybe it's not only shrinkage but also MOVEMENT in the paper? I
> suppose you should be drying the gum layer to the same degree as the
> first cyano coat.
>  David
>
>  On Apr 28 2009, Loris Medici wrote:
>
>  Hi David,
>
>  The 300gsm (140lb?) paper had stayed at least 45-50 minutes in room temp.
>  water (HCl pre-soak to get rid of the CaCO3 buffer + 5 water bath rinses
>  to get rid of remaining HCl and CaCl2) and dried before making the
>  cyanotype, doesn't that count for shrinkage? Does the water has to be
>  considerably warmer than room temp.?
>
>  Thinking again, my practice of cyanotype is to completely/thoroughly
> force
>  dry the paper with a hair dryer before exposure (to be safe from humidity
>  fluctuations / which have a very pronounced effect on cyanotype), maybe
>  that's the problem...
>
>  Regards,
>  Loris.
>
>
>  28 Nisan 2009, Salý, 11:17 am tarihinde,
> davidhatton@totalise.co.uk yazmýþ:
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi Loris,
>  > Give the paper a good long soak in warm water before you print any
> layers
>  > at all. That's what I do and shrinkage is minimal on the print
> sizes
>  > I produce
>  > Regards
>  > David
>  >
>  > On Apr 28 2009, Loris Medici wrote:
>  >
>  > I did few gum over cyanotypes recently and I happen to like them much.
>  > See
>  > the most recent one below here: http://dwarfurl.com/008fa
>  >
>  > The print is on HCl acidified (2 minutes in 2.5%) Fabriano Artistico
> EW.
>  > One -1/3 stop exposed cyanotype layer + 3 gum layers. (1. PR206 5% AD
>  > +1/3
>  > stop exposure, 2. PV19 Rose + PBk9 5% AD normal exposure, 3. PBk9 2% AD
>  > +1/3 stop exposure.)
>  >
>  > I print the Cyanotype on unsized paper, then size with 3% gelatin.
> After
>  > sizing, the paper change dimensions and you can't register the
>  > negative
>  > perfectly on the first gum pass - 2mm larger in both horizontal and
>  > vertical orientations (print size 10x6.6"), the registration gets
>  > perfect
>  > only in the second or third gum pass. (See the resulting blur at the
>  > right
>  > edge in the middle.)
>  >
>  > My question is: How do you manage to get perfect registration for gum
>  > over
>  > layers?
>  >
>  > Any tips and tricks would be highly appreciated.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Loris.
>  >
>  > P.S. I have read Lukas Werth's method somewhere else: Affix the
> paper
>  > on
>  > dimensionally stable support - such as an aluminum sheet - with
> gelatin,
>  > print, varnish the print (acrylic binder + mineral spirit) to
>  > "protect"
>  > the gum layer and then put the print in warm water (this is where you
>  > need
>  > "protection"!) to melt the gelatin and release the print from
>  > the support.
>  > I would like to hear about any suitable varnish that can be used for
> this
>  > purpose too...
>
>