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Re: drying racks?



judy,
your setup sounds great and practical. unfortunately i have neither space for a cabinet, nor jogs in the wall. but, fortunately, my bathroom is reasonably light-tight, so i can live without a light-protected drying area for now.
of course i'm not taking baths while coated papers dangling abobe my head ... although i occasionally shower next to half-dry processed gum prints.... i just don't feel like checking the bathtub for dichromate drops every time. also i am an impatient and also sloppy worker. when i'm coating papers, i want to get through the ten or so papers as quickly as possible. waiting for five minutes after each before hanging it, ruines my nerves: it's too much to take off the gloves and leave the room and too long not to. so i tend to hang them too early and the suffer from drops.
for coating i use a normal brush first, then another (hake, foam or so) for smoothing. just yesterday i got a shiny new 60mm synthetic brush, i can't wait to use it. i don't really like foam brushes for gum emulsion, i like it for silver processes though.

washing the frames - of course i didn't mean washing donut holes... but the fly screen in the frames could probably get some emulsion on it from drops (if there are any), so i'd like to wash or rinse them every now and then. but will just use what i have for now and switch to frameless wire screens or something like that, whenever one of these things crosses my way.

i think i found a solution for most of my problems, which is a big table for coating and drying. since most people use some kind of horizontal drying, i can put hanging papers to rest with a good conscience.


Judy Seigel schrieb:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, phritz phantom wrote:

so, i'm in the process of building drying racks for, well... drying, but especially for drying coated emulsions and sensitized tissue. the classic workflow would be to coat, leave flat for some time, then hang to dry- i guess. that's what i've been doing until now. but i don't want to do the hanging anymore, because the only place to hang them is above my bathtub and i don't feel comfortable with that anymore. also horizontal drying is beneficial sometimes.
Phritz:

What are you using to coat with? In my experience, it's not necessary to have drips... in fact, if you've coated so fluidly that there are drips, you risk, not just the drips onto self in the bath, and your priceless Persian carpet, but channels, streaks, uneven routes through the course of your print where a streak has run down.

For what it's worth I describe the set up I've used these many years:

In a corner of the studio (my "light room") I have a supply cabinet about 40 inches wide... that's backed up against a jog in the wall to make a space about 40 by 36 or 40 inches (anyway bigger than the largest paper I use) thus shrouded on 3 sides, and I've got a black plastic light-proof curtain that pulls across the 4th side.

Inside this space, that is, on the back of the cabinet and the wall facing it, I have wood strips that hold 5 screens from a disused print washer, one over the other, maybe 6 inches of vertical space between them. (Screens in ANY size to fit your space can be ordered at your local hardware store... get the-- oops, I'm blanking on the screening material, but it's somewhere in Post-Factory, and/or someone should know... Not the ancient kind of window screen, in aluminum or other metal, but the "modern" kind in some kind of synthetic or plastic).

Just inside the black "curtain," I have a support (a low chest of drawers in fact, doubles as extra storage space) for a small fan. (We use these little fans all over the house, they cost about $10 apiece, have a very small footprint and energy bite and ... we only had the AC on TWICE so far this summer !) This fan will dry the paper, depending of course on thickness & ambient temp. & humidity in 15 minutes to a half hour.

The double plug on the wall also allows a safelight for inspection(s), which I find very handy, though frankly IME if it comes to that, these "alt" coatings can all take a short exposure to normal room light. (I have an idea that ambient humidity, and time since coating, are more significant variables than exposure to ambient light... tho for extra credit maybe someone wants to test that?)

In any event, do NOT try to coat by "safelight." A yellow emulsion (as they tend to be) cannot be seen or judged by "safelight," tho it never ceases to amaze me how many folks do manage to coat credibly by safelight -- also how many "how to" books and essays call for it. (I coat by whatever my room light is at the time, in fact next to my north-facing "picture windows." In school we coated under fluorescents, which for some reason are also considered a no-no. No problems -- just get the wet paper into the dark ASAP.

I coat gum with a soft foam brush, smoothed with hakie. But cyano, VDB, etc., always coated very nicely with just the foam. Don't mix processes in yr applicator, is my experience... or anyway my practice. They're cheap enough to have one for each & it really wastes water trying to wash them clean enough to remove all traces of the previous. (Tho maybe folks living in the great outdoors haven't had 3 hikes in their water rate this year?)

It's not clear to me, Phritz, why you had to wash "frames" -- I coat on a plastic sheet, or something else wipe-able, or brown paper, or whatever... though as a rule I don't anyway coat edge to edge, leaving a margin for handling (even 1/2 inch at one end works & can be trimmed off later if need be)... etc. etc.

Judy




so i've built some drying frames out of fly screens and canvas frames. i will stack those, put some kind of pan beneath it to collect possible drops and a fan in front of it. now i started thinking, that cleaning those frames could be a nuisance, so i will protect them with a layer of old newspaper (anything sticky on the backside should just wash off during processing) or so ... or switch to wire screens if i can find them.
what i've been wondering these days is, how everyone else is handling the coated papers? maybe there is an ingenious simple solution (hopefully), i didn't think of..

regards,
phritz