Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs

[SteveS <sgshiya@redshift.com>]

Don't understand this, and all the time I thought you were senior in this 
game, Judy :)

Imogene Cunningham was a chemist, majored in the university including the 
Sorbone, minor in boteny (hense the flower pics); Stichen commanded piro 
into the military where he did the chemistry on board ship . . . Morley Baer 
was one of his supbordinates; and Stlieglitz was one of the labratory 
pioneers of color processes.

Where you been girl?  Library's down to the left and uptown 'bout a dozen 
blocks.

S. Shapiro

PS
Cunningham printed for Curtis . . . those orotypes of Indians.  She 
inspired/invented the curtistype of brass instead of gold .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judy Seigel" <jseigel@panix.com>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs


> What I'm wondering is.... did folks like Stieglitz, Steichen and Imogene 
> Cunningham do their own darkroom work?  I'm also thinking fame may have 
> been more likely for those with a long life... they not only lived to do 
> their "mature work," they were around to hustle it. (I also know folks who 
> printed for famous photographers, for instance, for Helen Levitt-- and 
> where the printing process isn't part of the image [as in "alt" & maybe 
> sometimes even then], I'd count that a consumation devoutly to be wished.)
>
> Meanwhile, the only name that came to mind right off for early death was 
> Gary Winogrand (and that only because photography's best sneerer, AD 
> Coleman, sneered at him in one of his books for having left -- hundreds? 
> thousands? -- of rolls of exposed film unexamined at his death)... 
> Winogrand was 56.
>
> In any event, I doubt that the figure about increased cancer among 
> photographers was baseless...  Tho now that I think of it, a friend of 
> mine took David Vestal's class in fine printing at Pratt.... I'll check 
> with her about his stand on hands-in ... & also check his books to see if 
> there's a caveat.
>
> I also point out that I never in my life had a sign of allergy of *any* 
> kind -- not hay fever, not ragweed, not bee stings, let alone bananas and 
> chocolate that torture me today (sob!). I suppose, therefore, that it was 
> the years of intimate contact with turpentine in a closed room that 
> brought it on...  I also note that in a painting class in those days 
> (maybe still today ?) before acrylics, each student had a butcher tray of 
> oil paints squeezed out and mixed in the center, that is, about 25 trays 
> sloshing with turpentine in a closed classroom..  Any "fine art" student 
> was likely to have had several such classes, as did I.
>
> cheers,
>
> Judy
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Joseph Smigiel wrote:
>
> > Imogen Cunningham at  93 died the same day as Minor White on June 24, 
> > 1976. Perhaps Imogen used tongs.
> >
> > Joe