Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs

[SteveS <sgshiya@redshift.com>]

You're getting senile, Jack.  And, how come you never taught there . . . 
Photographers' Formulary.

They even carry Shap's Bal Bitz.  Mine, a reconstituted DuPont's B&B . . . 
same stuff just like what Bret Weston used in HIS amidol formula.

BTW  I have to admit I can't find the origin of this thread.

Steve Shapiro
still alive making pictures

PS
Poor Willy Ronis died.  age 99
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jefulton1" <jefulton1@comcast.net>
To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: black fingernails, et al, was Re: Paper - baby oil Digi Negs


> I don't know re Alfred or Edward but Imogen did for a while and then,  I 
> believe, her son did. Ansel printed until the very end and I just  had a 
> conversation with a friend who'd visited him 2 week or perhaps 2  months 
> prior to his passing and when he got to the house, Ansel walks  out of the 
> darkroom to greet him and have a cocktail.
>
> Gary was about the most enthusiastic photographer I've met. He was a  good 
> pal of one of my pals, Henry Wessel. I met Gary a few times and  we went 
> for a walk or to have a cocktail and zingo, bingo, click,  click, snappety 
> snap . . . . he just photographed roll after roll  after roll. Heck later, 
> trying to employ such enthusiasm after  receiving a grant in Paris, I wore 
> my camera out (I thought) and shot  43 rolls in 6 weeks. Another 
> photographer I know went over for a  couple of weeks and shot 125 rolls.
>
> Until a couple of years ago I developed everything in my darkroom but  it 
> has become so difficult to purchase chemistry that drug stores now  handle 
> the majority of the development (or a good pro shop nearby).  but 
> everything else is here and most of that is digital but for the  stuff 
> that digital cannot do.
> Jack F
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Judy Seigel wrote:
>
> > What I'm wondering is.... did folks like Stieglitz, Steichen and  Imogene 
> > Cunningham do their own darkroom work?  I'm also thinking  fame may have 
> > been more likely for those with a long life... they  not only lived to do 
> > their "mature work," they were around to hustle  it. (I also know folks 
> > who printed for famous photographers, for  instance, for Helen Levitt--  
> > and where the printing process isn't  part of the image [as in "alt" & 
> > maybe sometimes even then], I'd  count that a consumation devoutly to be 
> > wished.)
> >
> > Meanwhile, the only name that came to mind right off for early death  was 
> > Gary Winogrand (and that only because photography's best  sneerer, AD 
> > Coleman, sneered at him in one of his books for having  left -- hundreds? 
> > thousands? -- of rolls of exposed film unexamined  at his death)... 
> > Winogrand was 56.
> >
> > In any event, I doubt that the figure about increased cancer among 
> > photographers was baseless...  Tho now that I think of it, a friend  of 
> > mine took David Vestal's class in fine printing at Pratt.... I'll  check 
> > with her about his stand on hands-in ... & also check his  books to see 
> > if there's a caveat.
> >
> > I also point out that I never in my life had a sign of allergy of  *any* 
> > kind -- not hay fever, not ragweed, not bee stings, let alone  bananas 
> > and chocolate that torture me today (sob!). I suppose,  therefore, that 
> > it was the years of intimate contact with turpentine  in a closed room 
> > that brought it on...  I also note that in a  painting class in those 
> > days (maybe still today ?) before acrylics,  each student had a butcher 
> > tray of oil paints squeezed out and mixed  in the center, that is, about 
> > 25 trays sloshing with turpentine in a  closed classroom..  Any "fine 
> > art" student was likely to have had  several such classes, as did I.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Judy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Joseph Smigiel wrote:
> >
> > > Imogen Cunningham at  93 died the same day as Minor White on June  24, 
> > > 1976. Perhaps Imogen used tongs.
> > >
> > > Joe