RE: Miracle size for gum
Actually looking at the MSDS that Phritz has found I would expect similar PVA sizes to work if the main ingredient is ethylene/vinyl acetate copolymer. I've never seen Gamlin products in the UK and unfortunately their list of stockists doesn't cover Europe but I'm sure it will be easy enough to get from the US via mail order. John. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Viapiano [mailto:viapiano@pacbell.net] Sent: 09 October 2009 23:54 To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum OK, once more since it came up again today... Gamblin PVA SIZE is what you want...other products called PVA are not the same as PVA SIZE. Results will be different since they are not the same material. If you could get Gamblin to release the formula to you or at least get an MSDS, you might be able to figure something out. Find out WHO in Europe is a distributor for Gamblin products. In fact, email Gamblin via their site and ask before you go down a road of endless disappointment. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "phritz phantom" <phritz-phantom@web.de> To: <alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum >i second this. > i've read "gamblin pva" quite often lately. and it does sound interesting. > i looked around a bit and couldn't find a source in europe either. then in > did some search on "polyvinylacetat" and it seems to be a pretty commonly > used chemical. so there should be something similar be available here too. > maybe even in a hardware store. > kremer pigmente sells quite a bit of these things, but i don't know enough > about the subject to pick out the right stuff. they do have something > which i think i pure polyvinyl acetate, but it's in granules and has to be > mixed in some kind of alcohol, which sounds smelly and unpleasant. > > phritz > > Loris Medici schrieb: >> Thanks for the report Marek. Unfortunately we don't have Gamblin >> products here in Turkey. Do you have any idea about the formula? I can >> find PVA but I'm not sure which one to buy and how much to use... >> >> Not directly related but just wanted to mention: For those who are >> interested in "casein", the miracle sizing is cheap acrylic gesso 1+4 >> (or 1+5) with water. >> >> Regards, >> Loris. >> >> >> 2009/10/9 Marek Matusz <marekmatusz@hotmail.com>: >> >>> All, >>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion on PVA sizing and I decided to >>> try >>> it for gum. >>> ... >>> The 1:2 turned out to be a miracle! >>> ... >>> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/09/09 08:10:00
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