John,
That is exactly the suff Marek
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:55:59 +0100 > From: john@johnbrewerphotography.com > Subject: RE: Miracle size for gum > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > > Is this the stuff Marek? I'm very interested to try this. > http://www.utrechtart.com/dsp_view_product.cfm?item=57707 > > John. > > -----Original Message----- > From: phritz phantom [mailto:phritz-phantom@web.de] > Sent: 10 October 2009 13:36 > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum > > hi marek, > does it really say "pv alcohol" on the bottle, not "pv acetate"? > i found the data sheet on the gamlin site yesterday and there it says: > "Product: Poly Vinyl Acetate (PVA) Glue > Chemical name: Ethylene/Vinyl Acetate Copolymer" > > http://www.gamblincolors.com/msds/pdf/drying_oils/msds_PVA.pdf > > what i've learnt on the substances so far (i think mostly from a post > from katharine thayer on apug), is that pv-alcohol is basically a simple > glue and not waterproof and pv-acetat is insoluble in water and the > better size. > > regards > phritz > > > > Marek Matusz schrieb: > > Loris, > > A note on the bottle says "post plasticezed neutral pH ply vinyl > > alcohol). > > perhaps one can mix a PVA solution from polyvinylalcohol that can be > > bought. I suspect that there are other additives in the Gamblin > > product, but they might not be all that relevant to the gum sizing. > > I also have to add it is so simple to just take some solution from the > > bottle, add water and brush it on paper, no additional chemicals, no mess. > > Marek > > > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:48:02 +0300 > > > From: mail@loris.medici.name > > > Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum > > > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca > > > > > > Thanks for the report Marek. Unfortunately we don't have Gamblin > > > products here in Turkey. Do you have any idea about the formula? I can > > > find PVA but I'm not sure which one to buy and how much to use... > > > > > > Not directly related but just wanted to mention: For those who are > > > interested in "casein", the miracle sizing is cheap acrylic gesso 1+4 > > > (or 1+5) with water. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Loris. > > > > > > > > > 2009/10/9 Marek Matusz <marekmatusz@hotmail.com>: > > > > > > > > All, > > > > A few weeks ago there was some discussion on PVA sizing and I > > decided to try > > > > it for gum. > > > > ... > > > > The 1:2 turned out to be a miracle! > > > > ... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/09/09 > 18:43:00 >
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