Re: NOSTALGIA; WAY OFF TOPIC

[david drake <daviddrakephoto@sympatico.ca>]

Bob,

Thanks so much for posting your story. Stories like these make icons  
more real. I envy those you are able to see the Frank show in NYC.

cheers
david drake



On 10-Oct-09, at 1:31 PM, BOB KISS wrote:

> DEAR LIST,
> 	When Judy mentioned that she was going to hear Robert Frank speak
> yesterday, I responded off list with the story below.  Judy has  
> suggested
> that I share this with the list.  I hope you will enjoy it.
> 		CHEERS!
> 			BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOB KISS [mailto:bobkiss@caribsurf.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: 'Judy Seigel'
> Subject: OFF LIST was glutaraldehyde shelf life
>
> DEAR JUDY,
> 	Off list, let me take you back to yesteryear!
> 	I had hitchhiked with a girlfriend from RIT in Rochester to Syracuse
> to hear the Grateful Dead.  I wasn't a Dead Head but I did enjoy  
> hearing
> them live about once every two years.  (As an aside, around midnight  
> the
> Jefferson Starship (nee Airplane) joined the Dead and jammed until 2  
> am!)
> 	Aaaaaaaaaaaaaanyhow, I was trying to hitchhike back to RIT and
> wasn't having much luck.  Someone dropped us off at a rest stop  
> about half
> way before they took the exit.  Sooooooooooooo, there we are  
> standing in the
> rest stop with a sign saying "Rochester" on it.  An olive skinned  
> fellow
> with a receding hairline and thin face peered at the sign and walked  
> past.
> On his way back out with a cup of coffee in his hand (and an empty  
> bladder)
> he said, "C'mon, I'm going to Rochester.  I'll give you a lift."   
> Sooooooo,
> we happily jumped into his car, my friend in the back seat and I in  
> the
> front.  This man had a few 16mm film cans between us on the seat.  I  
> asked
> him if he was a film maker and he said that he was actually a  
> photographer
> who had made a documentary and he was going to lecture at RIT to  
> which I
> replied, "Oh, really?  What's your name?"  He said (that's right!)  
> Robert
> Frank".  I almost shit on his car seat!  Seriously!  I had been  
> amazed by
> his book, THE AMERICANS, and was speechless!  Needless to say we  
> "tawked"
> photography for a while!  As we were driving along we saw a large  
> flat black
> mass in the wide divider area between the opposite directions of the  
> NYS
> Thruway.  Suddenly the mass lifted up into a undulating magic carpet  
> which
> we realized was a flock of birds all taking off at once.  Frank  
> pointed
> saying, "Look at that!!!" but also tried to point with the hand he  
> had on
> the wheel so we almost drove off into the divider ditch.  After much
> squeeling of tires he got the car back under control and into our  
> proper
> lane.  Never a dull moment with Robert Frank.
> 	The chance that he will recall this is non existent but I will
> remember it the rest of my life!
> 		CHEERS!
> 			BOB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Seigel [mailto:jseigel@panix.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:26 PM
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> Subject: Re: glutaraldehyde shelf life
>
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Keith Gerling wrote:
>
> > Anybody know how long this stuff lasts?  Just the mere act of reading
> > Phritz's woes have caused my prints to stain horribly.  No problems  
> > at all
> 2
> > weeks ago, so I doubt if it "turned", but my glut was purchased  
> > back when
> > Chris started to preach of it's qualities.  (thanks Chris!)
> >
> > and I've only used a smidgeon of it
> Keith, I have no experience with glut. But I've found that, if  
> undiluted,
> glyoxal and formaldehyde keep more or less indefinitely (preferably  
> at a
> cool room temp). And since glut as I recall goes into *kits,* I'd  
> figure
> it would last at least as well. The working solution of glyoxal can  
> die
> overnight, if it wants to.  Tho I understand from Sara Van Keuren  
> that she
> keeps a formaldehyde working solution going in class almost forever.
>
> Plus, another thought occurred to me, reading the different findings  
> for
> gelatined paper, sized, unsized, hardened or not, etc. etc. etc.:
>
> It was my finding in the long long ago when I tested such things, that
> different gelatins reacted differently... I forget the numbers, but  
> the
> "heavier" ones were quite different from, for instance, Knox, which  
> I've
> used ever since.
>
> I'll add that I found VAT sizing far, far and away more effective  
> and long
> lasting than brush sizing... which I suppose folks who don't have a  
> vat
> use. Up front, brush coat is of course easier, but ultimately not.   
> For
> multicoating it doesn't last nearly as well... tho once I've done a
> lot of coats, I do often add a brush coat for a "refresher."
>
> More later... now I'm off to the Met, tra la, to hear Robert Frank,  
> with a
> ticket that just fell into my hands from the sky.
>
> Judy
>
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