Re: NOSTALGIA; WAY OFF TOPIC
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Thanks so much for posting your story. Stories like these make icons
more real. I envy those you are able to see the Frank show in NYC.
On 10-Oct-09, at 1:31 PM, BOB KISS wrote:
When Judy mentioned that she was going to hear Robert Frank speak
yesterday, I responded off list with the story below. Judy has
that I share this with the list. I hope you will enjoy it.
From: BOB KISS [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:42 PM
To: 'Judy Seigel'
Subject: OFF LIST was glutaraldehyde shelf life
Off list, let me take you back to yesteryear!
I had hitchhiked with a girlfriend from RIT in Rochester to Syracuse
to hear the Grateful Dead. I wasn't a Dead Head but I did enjoy
them live about once every two years. (As an aside, around midnight
Jefferson Starship (nee Airplane) joined the Dead and jammed until 2
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaanyhow, I was trying to hitchhike back to RIT and
wasn't having much luck. Someone dropped us off at a rest stop
way before they took the exit. Sooooooooooooo, there we are
standing in the
rest stop with a sign saying "Rochester" on it. An olive skinned
with a receding hairline and thin face peered at the sign and walked
On his way back out with a cup of coffee in his hand (and an empty
he said, "C'mon, I'm going to Rochester. I'll give you a lift."
we happily jumped into his car, my friend in the back seat and I in
front. This man had a few 16mm film cans between us on the seat. I
him if he was a film maker and he said that he was actually a
who had made a documentary and he was going to lecture at RIT to
replied, "Oh, really? What's your name?" He said (that's right!)
Frank". I almost shit on his car seat! Seriously! I had been
his book, THE AMERICANS, and was speechless! Needless to say we
photography for a while! As we were driving along we saw a large
mass in the wide divider area between the opposite directions of the
Thruway. Suddenly the mass lifted up into a undulating magic carpet
we realized was a flock of birds all taking off at once. Frank
saying, "Look at that!!!" but also tried to point with the hand he
the wheel so we almost drove off into the divider ditch. After much
squeeling of tires he got the car back under control and into our
lane. Never a dull moment with Robert Frank.
The chance that he will recall this is non existent but I will
remember it the rest of my life!
From: Judy Seigel [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: glutaraldehyde shelf life
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Keith Gerling wrote:
Anybody know how long this stuff lasts? Just the mere act of reading
Phritz's woes have caused my prints to stain horribly. No problems
weeks ago, so I doubt if it "turned", but my glut was purchased
Keith, I have no experience with glut. But I've found that, if
Chris started to preach of it's qualities. (thanks Chris!)
and I've only used a smidgeon of it
glyoxal and formaldehyde keep more or less indefinitely (preferably
cool room temp). And since glut as I recall goes into *kits,* I'd
it would last at least as well. The working solution of glyoxal can
overnight, if it wants to. Tho I understand from Sara Van Keuren
keeps a formaldehyde working solution going in class almost forever.
Plus, another thought occurred to me, reading the different findings
gelatined paper, sized, unsized, hardened or not, etc. etc. etc.:
It was my finding in the long long ago when I tested such things, that
different gelatins reacted differently... I forget the numbers, but
"heavier" ones were quite different from, for instance, Knox, which
used ever since.
I'll add that I found VAT sizing far, far and away more effective
lasting than brush sizing... which I suppose folks who don't have a
use. Up front, brush coat is of course easier, but ultimately not.
multicoating it doesn't last nearly as well... tho once I've done a
lot of coats, I do often add a brush coat for a "refresher."
More later... now I'm off to the Met, tra la, to hear Robert Frank,
ticket that just fell into my hands from the sky.
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