On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Marek Matusz wrote:
Sorry about this
The bottle says POLYVINYLACETATE!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know how I wrote something else that's on the label, while looking
at it. Thanks Phritz for discovering my mistake
Marek
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:36:05 +0200
> From: phritz-phantom@web.de
> Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum
> To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>
> hi marek,
> does it really say "pv alcohol" on the bottle, not "pv
acetate"?
> i found the data sheet on the gamlin site yesterday and there it says:
> "Product: Poly Vinyl Acetate (PVA) Glue
> Chemical name: Ethylene/Vinyl Acetate Copolymer"
>
> http://www.gamblincolors.com/msds/pdf/drying_oils/msds_PVA.pdf
>
> what i've learnt on the substances so far (i think mostly from a post
> from katharine thayer on apug), is that pv-alcohol is basically a simple
> glue and not waterproof and pv-acetat is insoluble in water and the
> better size.
>
> regards
> phritz
>
>
>
> Marek Matusz schrieb:
> > Loris,
> > A note on the bottle says "post plasticezed neutral pH ply vinyl
> > alcohol).
> > perhaps one can mix a PVA solution from polyvinylalcohol that can be
> > bought. I suspect that there are other additives in the Gamblin
> > product, but they might not be all that relevant to the gum sizing.
> > I also have to add it is so simple to just take some solution from
the
> > bottle, add water and brush it on paper, no additional chemicals, no
mess.
> > Marek
> > > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:48:02 +0300
> > > From: mail@loris.medici.name
> > > Subject: Re: Miracle size for gum
> > > To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
> > >
> > > Thanks for the report Marek. Unfortunately we don't have Gamblin
> > > products here in Turkey. Do you have any idea about the formula?
I can
> > > find PVA but I'm not sure which one to buy and how much to
use...
> > >
> > > Not directly related but just wanted to mention: For those who
are
> > > interested in "casein", the miracle sizing is cheap
acrylic gesso 1+4
> > > (or 1+5) with water.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Loris.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/10/9 Marek Matusz <marekmatusz@hotmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > > A few weeks ago there was some discussion on PVA sizing and
I
> > decided to try
> > > > it for gum.
> > > > ...
> > > > The 1:2 turned out to be a miracle!
> > > > ...
> >
> >
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