Re: New home for list needed.
First let me offer Gordon thanks for hosting the list for so many years! What a gift he helped give the world. And also say that I'm sorry to hear about his job loss. Sadly the economy is still shedding jobs at an alarming rate..... While I understand that this list was/is delivered directly to email inboxes which some find more conducive to dialogue, just a reminder that F295.org has a vibrant and robust online forum system (with image support) already in place with categories for many of the processes and topics discussed here - all are welcome. F295, like alternativephotography.com is a labor of love. While we have occasional member drives to raise money to help defray cost all proceeds go directly back into funding the website, events, supplies etc. Best, Tom ...................................... Tom Persinger f295 LLC www.f295.org www.tompersinger.com/blog Pittsburgh, PA USA AIM/iChat: tpersin ...................................... > -------Original Message------- > From: Greg Schmitz <gws1@columbia.edu> > Subject: Re: New home for list needed. > Sent: 11 Nov '09 09:27 > > BTW, garbing the archives is not that big a deal - and anybody with even > a modicum of drive space (by todays standards) can do it provided they > have the bandwidth and the time. That said, I have, I think a complete > archive of the list in a folder I call alt-photo which is nothing but > saved messages. Some of the very early archives came from me when > Steve Avery had problems with the listserve and lost the posts - and > yeh, I still have the .zip files. > > --greg > > > Greg Schmitz wrote: > > Yes, but... Even with commercial hosts like Google and Yahoo somebody > > has to moderate - that is the nature of the beast. Short of going to > > a web based "chat" format, which I think would destroy the list, we > > are stuck with that reality. I think things are in the works and I > > have my fingers crossed. > > Best --greg > > > > Tomas Sobota wrote: > >> Greg, > >> I also understand (and up to a point share) your concern about > >> longevity. But in that case we need a willing institution and a > >> willing postmaster to manage the list. Do we have them right now? > >> Also, please notice that for the last two universities that managed > >> the list, we have been just a barely tolerated parasite on their mail > >> managers. When the person in charge (Gordon, Avery) had to go, the > >> list also had to go. Does it have to be that way always? > >> I think that we have a short term task, and a medium term task on > >> hand. The short term is to save the list archives now in the U. of > >> Sask., store them in one of the servers that have been kindly offered > >> and assure the continuity of the list for the time being. > >> The medium term task is of course to find a more permanent site. > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Greg Schmitz <gws1@columbia.edu > >> <mailto:gws1@columbia.edu>> wrote: > >> > >> Tom, I understand your concern, but the institution that hosted > >> this website for the last 10 or so years did so for free and Gord > >> did the heavy lifting. Academic institutions are not perfect, but > >> at least to my experience they have a longevity on The Internet > >> that exceeds private and individual concerns. Based on > >> experience, and there are a couple of folks on this list that know > >> about private concerns that go *poof* I' think the list would be > >> better served with an institutional address. > >> > >> --greg > >> > >> > > > > > >
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