Keith,
Ive created a Yahoo group as an alternative to the current list just in
case the list goes down unexpectedly.
Here are the pertinent addresses in case anyone desires to take advantage of
this Yahoo group.
Post message: alternative_photography@yahoogroups.com
Subscribe: alternative_photography-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: alternative_photography-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: alternative_photography-owner@yahoogroups.com
Just to be clear: This isn't an attempt to hijack the list, just an
alternative if the current list goes down until another solution is
discovered.
Best regards to everyone,
Don Bryant
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From: Keith Gerling [mailto:keith.gerling@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:46 PM
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
Subject: Re: New home for list neededa Case for Google/Yahoo
Mark, if it that easy, I suggest you go start a Google group and announce
the how-to-join stuff here. I bet we can have a group up and running by the
end of the day. You can deal with the list-minder stuff later...
Keith
2009/11/11 ender100 <ender100@aol.com>
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There has been some good discussion regarding moving the list. I appreciate
the kind offers from various folks to host the list, but I would like to
make a case and propose a simple model for moving the list to either Yahoo
Groups or Google Groups. I think either of these would work very well for
the list and perhaps from what Loris has said, it sounds like Google Groups
might have the edge in terms of features.
1. Google & Yahoo are both free.
2. Both offer a lot of features $BMQ (Perhaps Google has the edge here.
Many people on the alt photo list have been asking for more features for
years.
3. Large servers like Yahoo & Google are more reliable and not dependent on
one individual with one computer and one host $BMU (Joo many links in the
chain that can break.
4. The list could be started immediately on either.
5. You can have multiple "list minders"
6. You have easy security options that can eliminate spam.
7. You can temporarily deactivate a member if they are sending "out of
office auto responses" when on vacation with their secretary.
8. You can remove someone from the list if they misbehave.
9. You can make it a private list so that:
a: you can show nudes without being categorized as an "adult list"
b: a private list lets you screen out spammers
10. You can temporarily deactivate a member if their computer gets hacked
or gets a virus that causes them to send spam to the list.
11. You can have more than one list owner for redundancy.
12. I think the half-life of a group started on Yahoo or Google is likely
to be greater than one started on a private server.
I would suggest that we ask for 3 volunteers to start up the group as "list
owners" and post the information for joining on this list so everyone can
migrate over smoothly.
By having three members, you could have an agreement that it requires
approval of two of the "list owners" to remove someone from the list. Most
of you remember situations in the past where this had to be done, though it
has been a rare.
If one of the three list minders wishes to retire or becomes unable to
participate, that person can easily be replaced.
By the way, how are we going to come to a consensus regarding what to do? I
think there are 500-600 people subscribing to this list and only a handful
have made suggestions.
Just a thought.
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Best Wishes,
Mark Nelson
Precision Digital Negatives
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