Re: tricolor gum question - yellow

[Keith Gerling <keith.gerling@gmail.com>]

I love Daniel Smith quinacridone gold.  While I use 3 blues and 8 or so reds, the only yellow I use is the Quin Gold.  Very transparent.  Warm, and not garish.  

Don't buy it though.  Rumor has it that the pigment was created for the automotive industry (that gold PT Cruiser!) and that it won't be made anymore.  So I want it all for myself!

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:40 PM, zphoto@montana.net <zphoto@montana.net> wrote:

Cut your pigment in half.  With some yellows, I may even
dilute 1+30!  Don't have my calculations in front of me but
I know PY150 is a strong yellow and needs quite a bit of
dilution. Never have used cad yellow tho I like its
color..because I don't do yellow as a first coat ever
because it's hard to eyeball registration with it.
chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Viapiano <viapiano@pacbell.net>
To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca

Subject: Re: tricolor gum question - yellow

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:56:53 -0800

>Thanks, Jim...
>
>I bought a tube of Naples Yellow a few weeks ago and just
>used it as a first layer of a monochrome print. A beautiful
>color...
>
>Yellow Ochre's opacity would be ok, since I usually lay
>down yellow first.
>
>Paul
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Jim Larimer
>  To: alt-photo-process-l@usask.ca
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: tricolor gum question - yellow
>
>
>  Paul, Cad Yellow Pale is a very high chroma hue, in this
>case, a very bright and intense yellow. You could try
>Yellow Ochre, but it is an opaque pigment, or try Naples
>Yellow or even Raw Sienna. These last two have nice
>transparent properties so they would be better than the
>Ochre.
>  Jim
>
>
>  On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Paul Viapiano
><viapiano@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>    Hi all...
>
>    After making several tricolor gums, I am feeling that
>my yellow layer is a bit on the heavy side. Where I am
>expecting muted yellow-browns in my final print, I am
>seeing a brighter shade slightly on the garish side. I see
>this with oranges as well. Where I expect a more terracotta
>color I am seeing a brighter orange.
>
>    How can I correct for this? Should I mute the yellow by
>doubling the gum arabic in the pigment mixture? Or expose
>that layer less?
>
>    I can also change colors...at the moment I use Cad
>Yellow Pale, along with Quin Red and Phthalo Blue RS, all
>Daniel Smith pigments. Maybe toning the Cad Yellow down
>with something like Raw Sienna will mute the vibrancy...
>
>    Thanks!
>
>    Paul
>
>