[alt-photo] Re: gum curve question

[Paul Viapiano]

Well, Henk...

I would think you would want to use a gelatin-silver curve to get the tones 
for the digital interpos, right? Something that looks as close as possible 
to a film interpos, and that's usually a non-contrasty weak positive.

Paul



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "henk thijs" <henk.thijs at hetnet.nl>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:17 PM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: gum curve question


> .......... forgot to mention one important thing: the reason i want to do 
> this is the fact that i make my digital negs on non-transparent 
> plotterfoil, that means times for gum about 700 secs, for (brom)oil 
> printing about 1600 secs and it is not suitable for cyanotype.
> Using it for interpositives with the APHS film my times are something like 
> 70 and 160 secs , and i can make tri-color gumprints like Sam does: a 
> cyanotype as the cyan-layer.
> Henk
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> www.thijs-foto.com
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> On 18 aug 2010, at 22:35, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>
>> Don,
>>
>> I'm guessing that Henk wants to make a digital interpos to print on to 
>> APHS film to make a final neg, thereby eliminating the need to make a 
>> wet-step positive.
>>
>> Henk, you could always try this and see what happens. Usually an interpos 
>> is made with much less contrast, so that final contrast can be controlled 
>> in the making of the interneg. You're looking to make color seps for 
>> tricolor this way, right?
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bryant" <donsbryant at gmail.com>
>> To: <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:03 PM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: gum curve question
>>
>>
>>> Henk,
>>>
>>>>
>>> Dear List,
>>> Using the gum-curve via PDN to create digital negatives, the following
>>> question came up:
>>> Cleaning 'old-analogue-stuff' i found still a lot of Arista APHS film, 
>>> so i
>>> want to use it.
>>> Making a digital positive and sandwich it with the APHS.
>>> Now i was wondering about what curve to use: the one found with PDN 
>>> making
>>> digital negs is based upon UV-blocking of the ink used by the printer, 
>>> but
>>> for the sandwich 'normal' light is used to obtain the neg.
>>> The question is what curve is to be used for the positive?
>>> Now i tried the following : invert the positive, apply my 'PDN' curve,
>>> invert again, sandwich and the result is a APHS negative.
>>> Gum looks ok, but before going in tri-color printing i am open for any
>>> suggestions :-)
>>> regards
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know about everyone else but I'm confused as hell about what you 
>>> are
>>> attempting to accomplish or do. Can you run this by us one more time 
>>> with a
>>> bit more clarity?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So sorry to be so dense,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Bryant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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