[alt-photo] Re: Ziatype questions (update)

Marek Matusz marekmatusz at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 20 18:18:50 GMT 2010


Jacques,
I never tried that approach. I typically would dry the paper until it "feels" right and then place it in a plascic sleeve to keep it from further drying. But come to think of it, storing  a partially dry  paper before exposure in a tray with high humidity might be the same.
Marek
 
> From: jverschuren at home.nl
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:18:54 +0200
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ziatype questions (update)
> 
> 
> Marek,
> 
> Could this procedure (humidifying in a dry tray covered with a wet 
> towel) also be applied to/for humidifying your paper before exposure? 
> Any experience?
> 
> Jacques
> 
> >
> > Jalo,
> > I never liked steaming the paper (means lterally hot steam). Placing 
> > the exposed print at the bottom of deep tray (clean and dry)and 
> > covering the tray with wet towell provided good humidification. Just 
> > make sure that the towel is not dripping wet as a drop of water 
> > would ruin the print.
> > Time and temperature of himidification are likely to be related, at 
> > my conditions I would leave the exposed print for about 30 minutes. 
> > You can take a peak and see how highlights appear as the 
> > humidification progresses.
> > I also noticed that you are using dilute citric acid developer, 
> > while I aways used plain water. I am not sure if it makes any 
> > difference and what the "common" practive would be.
> > I am impressed with the number of test strips that you printed.
> > Marek
> >
> >> From: vedos at samk.fi
> >> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:21:43 +0300
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ziatype questions (update)
> >>
> >> Thanks Dick, a good thing to bear in mind!
> >> I'm gradually gaining some success and confidence in the 
> >> process... :)
> >>
> >> -Jalo
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org [alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org 
> >> ] On Behalf Of Richard Sullivan [richsul at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:41 AM
> >> To: 'The alternative photographic processes mailing list'
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ziatype questions (update)
> >>
> >> Jalo,
> >>
> >> You mention curves. Be aware that it is a printing out process and 
> >> does not
> >> behave at all like developing out processes when it comes to 
> >> sensitometry
> >> and step wedges. The image builds from the blacks up so an 
> >> underexposed
> >> print make only have the lower zone blacks and no mid tones or 
> >> highs which
> >> may be shown, though very pale in a DOP process. It will look like 
> >> a very
> >> overly contrasty print. Early POP papers came in only one contrast 
> >> grade and
> >> to some extent contrast could be controlled by exposure.
> >>
> >> --Dick
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
> >> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of
> >> Vedos
> >> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:44 PM
> >> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
> >> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Ziatype questions (update)
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Many thanks to Loris, Marek and all who advised me on the 
> >> ziatype... here's
> >> a little update.
> >>
> >> I had certain issues with papers and chemistry - they largely 
> >> turned out to
> >> be due to my inexperience in ziatype. I've been printing dozens of 
> >> small
> >> step tablet tests now, and gradually learned how humidity in the 
> >> paper
> >> should look and feel (don't need the acetate mylars any more). I also
> >> learned "steam development" for papers that were exposed too dry. I 
> >> mix
> >> "creatively" the zia's different ingredients and am building curves 
> >> for the
> >> different emulsion mixes. But I still have a feeling about 
> >> something being
> >> wrong with my chemistry; I have some strange looking correction 
> >> curves for
> >> negatives...
> >>
> >> Anyway, on my blog you can see what I been doing lately. It may be 
> >> boring
> >> stuff though... all that playing with gray charts and such... ;)
> >>
> >> - Jalo
> >>
> >>
> >> -- If you only look at what is, you might never attain what could 
> >> be --
> >>
> >> V E D O S
> >> Alternative Photographic Processes
> >> Satakunta University of Applied Sciences
> >> vedos at samk.fi
> >> http://vedos.samk.fi
> >> http://www.samk.fi
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