[alt-photo] Re: Babbling, etc

[Diana Bloomfield]

Yeah, I actually think there are more galleries that  do show alt  
processes (though not only alt processes) these days-- so maybe things  
are changing.  I honestly suspect if we could all make our alt process  
prints B-I-G (and I mean really B-I-G), then there would be less  
resistance.

The Springbox Gallery in Portland, Oregon just had an opening of the  
artists featured in the latest Diffusion-- which are all alt process  
prints, I *think,* or at least "unconventional" photography.  They  
included a print or two from the contributing writers for this last  
issue as well, so I have something in there, too-- but that's probably  
a show worth checking out.  I don't know much about the Gallery,  
though I suspect they don't typically represent alt-process printers,  
but that's just a guess.  http://www.springbox.us/Shows-Detail.cfm?ShowsID=15

But I agree with Loris here in that I don't believe that it's the  
processes-- whatever your chosen process is-- that "makes us get into  
the gallery;" I think it's a lot of other stuff, really.  But I do  
know that any gallery I walk into (unless it's one specific to alt  
processes), almost everything that's on the wall is bigger than I am.   
Granted, I'm only 5'4"-- but still . . . that 64" can seem big when  
hanging on a wall.

Diana

On Jul 14, 2010, at 6:40 PM, ender100 at aol.com wrote:

> As an aside, but relevant to what Loris and Chris are saying, Ed  
> Carey at Gallery 291 tries as much as he can to show Alt Prints and  
> he does a great job of it.  That doesn't mean that he never shows  
> some inkjet prints now and then.  He also has a great series of  
> lectures on the history of photography, alternative processes, and  
> even demonstrations on processes that he offers to his patrons.  I  
> think it is a great idea and he should be commended for trying to  
> educate the public.
>
> I think it's not the process(es) that makes us get into the gallery.  
> OTOH,  if you have ever been rejected by gallery because you work  
> with any of the alt. processes - or, let's say because you don't  
> work with any "mainstream"(!) method - that's bad news indeed... I  
> think to reserve a photography gallery exclusively to alt. processes  
> is a kind of bad decision perhaps - in terms of business, that is.  
> (Not that I wouldn't like to have many of them!) OTOH, from a  
> gallery's perspective, being able to present something "different"  
> would be nice, definitely. Therefore, we don't need alt-friendly  
> galleries really, we need non-alt-opposing galleries...
>
> Regards,
> Loris.
>
> 15.07.2010 00:22, Christina Anderson yazmış:
>> Loris and Diana,
>>
>> I'm very excited about this because when the market goes in such a  
>> direction, it means they recognize there's money to be made there.  
>> Now, when do you think galleries will catch on?  So far the alt- 
>> friendly galleries are a vast minority. I could probably name them  
>> on two hands.
>> Chris
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Loris Medici <mail at loris.medici.name>
> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org 
> >
> Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 4:41 pm
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Babbling, etc
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>
> I think it's not the process(es) that makes us get into the gallery.  
> OTOH,  if you have ever been rejected by gallery because you work  
> with any of the alt. processes - or, let's say because you don't  
> work with any "mainstream"(!) method - that's bad news indeed... I  
> think to reserve a photography gallery exclusively to alt. processes  
> is a kind of bad decision perhaps - in terms of business, that is.  
> (Not that I wouldn't like to have many of them!) OTOH, from a  
> gallery's perspective, being able to present something "different"  
> would be nice, definitely. Therefore, we don't need alt-friendly  
> galleries really, we need non-alt-opposing galleries...
>
> Regards,
> Loris.
>
> 15.07.2010 00:22, Christina Anderson yazmış:
>> Loris and Diana,
>>
>> I'm very excited about this because when the market goes in such a  
>> direction, it means they recognize there's money to be made there.  
>> Now, when do you think galleries will catch on?  So far the alt- 
>> friendly galleries are a vast minority. I could probably name them  
>> on two hands.
>> Chris
>>
>> Christina Z. Anderson
>> christinaZanderson.com
>>
>> On Jul 14, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Loris Medici wrote:
>>
>>> Diana, I don't think it's something very different (and/or  
>>> considerably more elaborate) than we already do right now - using  
>>> slightly different methods... Just speculating here: My best (and  
>>> most optimistic) guess would be that it's a software module  
>>> designed for the specific purpose of making enlarged negatives for  
>>> contact printing, integrated in their RIP. (= $$$) As I said  
>>> before, for the moment, to us, the software itself isn't much  
>>> important. (And probably will stay so - See the "$$$" part...)  
>>> What's more important is the fact that we finally have their focus  
>>> (a collaboration with Magnum isn't something to take lightly BTW),  
>>> and that makes me hope that maybe they'll finally start to  
>>> consider our specific needs when designing future products (and/or  
>>> software updates)... And it's good that HP did that first, that  
>>> will probably stimulate Epson to catch up(!) ;)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Loris.
>>>
>>>
>>> 14.07.2010 22:27, Diana Bloomfield yazmış:
>>>> ... But back to the original original post, can someone explain  
>>>> about the HP software and how that would work (in comparison to  
>>>> making one's own curves for digital negatives/processes that one  
>>>> might do already)? ...
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