[alt-photo] Re: Official press release about HPlarge formatnegatives

[Loris Medici]

I understand where you're coming from, OTOH, I really wonder how much film
users are making their own film and/or paper. Wet-plate / dry-plate
practitioners are even a minority among us, no? Also, you need internet* or
books / publications* to learn how to make your own film, also you need
someone to dig ores and such* and/or compound/synthesize raw materials*...
And that goes on and goes on and goes on...

I still think your point's moot, I don't buy it, sorry. Unfortunately,
you're always going to be dependant to "teams of people and huge amounts of
capital to set up manufacturing infrastucture"... (See the *s above, many
more not mentioned - you live in a city, right? Gas, electricity, water...)

But, I definitely acknowledge and respect your (and Greg's) position; just
don't try to impose it to others and/or frown upon them and/or utterly whine
about it... ;)

Regards,
Loris.

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Loris,

Yes, agreed on your first point, but there is one big difference which
actually matters to me - maybe nobody else. I can make my own film (maybe
not great), I can make my own camera - pinhole certainly but I could grind a
lens if I was really pushed - I make my own printing paper and chemicals.
Analogue processes I understand and can control every step of the process
should I wish to. But I can't build a digital camera. And I can't build a
computer (although I could write image processing software if someone paid
me enough). So I don't agree that there is "no difference". I think
technologically we're at the parting of the ways - simple analogue processes
which anyone can reproduce from scratch to some extent vs high tech
solutions which require interdisciplinary skills, teams of people and huge
amounts of capital to set up the manufacturing infrastructure.

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件名: [alt-photo] Re: Official press release about HPlarge formatnegatives

Geoff, aren't film manufacturers also providing you commercial solutions?
*In that aspect*, there is absolutely no difference between using digital
negatives or in-camera film negatives... Is there? That's a pretty moot
point, to me...

Regards,
Loris.

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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Official press release about HPlarge
formatnegatives

I'm with Greg - having spent 30+ years in front of a computer screen the
last thing I want is any form of digital photography. Film offers all the
controls you need (at least for a single B&W neg) including allowing you to
enlarge relatively easily without having to depend on commercial solutions
for the "software" bits - using the software between your ears is much more
fun.