[alt-photo] Re: Klein Blue (ping Katherine...)

[Paul Viapiano]

As I said, I don't have enough experience with them, including amount to use 
to in any way to compare to tube colors.

But a few weeks ago, I found an intense orange and beautiful walnut brown, 
and when I asked they wanted something like $40 per jar (half a small jam 
jar size). Now that could make maybe the equiv of 15 tubes, I don't know...

BTW, my monitor (profiled) makes the Klein blue look like my swatch of DS 
Phthalo Red Shade straight from the tube.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Gerling" <keith.gerling at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 10:00 AM
Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Klein Blue (ping Katherine...)


> Paul,
>
> There is little difference after you add the gum.  I use dry pigment for 
> 95%
> of my work.  I'm not sure what you mean by the price, though.  Some of the
> "exotics" can be pricey, but when you consider how many tubes that would
> correspond too, they really are pretty cheap.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Paul Viapiano 
> <viapiano at pacbell.net>wrote:
>
>> What about trying an intense dry pigment, as this work you've linked to
>> also uses?
>>
>> I haven't ever worked with dry pigments, but every time I run across them
>> in some out of the way store they are so intense sitting there in the
>> jar...and then I inquire about price...and slink away.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Gerling" <
>> keith.gerling at gmail.com>
>> To: <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 7:20 AM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Klein Blue (ping Katherine...)
>>
>>
>>  Painter (and photographer) Yves Klein laid claim to a particularly 
>> vibrant
>>> blue that has come to be known as Klein Blue.
>>> http://www.moma.org/collection/browse_results.php?object_id=80103
>>>
>>> I haven't researched this heavily, but it seems to be based on
>>> Ultramarine.
>>> When I try to make gumprints with Ultramarine they look terrible.  Dingy
>>> and
>>> weak.  Do any pigment experts out there have any advice on how one might
>>> achieve a Klein Blue intensity in a Gum Bicrhromate print?
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