[alt-photo] Re: PVA for SIZE & GUM ?‏

Peter Blackburn blackburnap at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 5 18:19:42 GMT 2010


Hello Diana:

 

Thank you for bringing to my attention the communication you had with Gamblin. Jamee's comments are helpful and, hopefully, truthful. From the work I've seen on the web, I admire your vision and respect your insight.  

Peter J. Blackburn



 
> From: dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
> To: alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:52:11 -0500
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: PVA for SIZE & GUM ?‏
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I already posted this (below) a couple of weeks ago, and although it 
> may not mean much-- since the source is Gamblin, and they're the ones 
> that stand to make money-- though I'm skeptical that a bunch of gum 
> printers would keep them in or out of business-- here's what the 
> Gamblin "product specialist" wrote to me when I asked her about their 
> PVA and its archival properties, etc. She then wrote me a follow-up 
> email to that one, also below. Although it appears Jamee may have 
> never met a comma she liked, I've decided to go ahead and take her at 
> her word on the PVA. :)
> 
> 
> 
> Dear Diana –
> 
> Thank you for contacting us.
> 
> I have heard of artists using the PVA Size for dichromate printing 
> with good results. PVA Size is basically archival, pH neutral glue 
> that has been diluted to the perfect consistency for sizing fabric 
> supports for oil painting. If the dichromate is adhering well to the 
> size then I see no problem using it for this purpose.
> 
> At the current dilution it no longer functions as a glue but it may 
> still have enough tac for the process. If you find that it is not 
> strong enough you can purchase regular PVA glue and dilute it with 
> distilled water to the consistency that better suits your needs.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thank you 
> for choosing our materials.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jamee
> 
> Jamee Linton-Kelly | Product Specialist | Gamblin Artists Colors Co. | 
> 503.235.1945 x-30 | www.gamblincolors.com
> 
> 
> Diana –
> 
> Yes just to confirm our PVA Size is 100% archival and pH neutral. I am 
> glad to hear it is working well for your process. =)
> 
> Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jamee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Similar to Judy, my concerns have revolved around both the seeming 
> > proprietary nature of the Gamblin PVA size, and the fact that not a 
> > single commercial paper manufacturer, to my knowledge, uses PVA as a 
> > size. What do they know that we don't? Well, after sending out some 
> > inquiries to some of my trusted paper experts in the field, the 
> > general consensus seems to be that PVA is just too expensive for 
> > commercial paper production.
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, that makes me feel somewhat better, but I am still doing some of 
> > my own informal testing to see if I can get it to yellow or 
> > deteriorate before I give it a hardy thumbs up. Right now it's up, 
> > but leaning more in the direction of someone hitching a ride. If PVA 
> > turns out to be as pure as the wind driven snow and easier to apply 
> > than peanut butter on toast, then I believe another significant leap 
> > forward has been taken in the advancement of dichromate printing 
> > technology.
> >
> > Peter J. Blackburn
> 
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