[alt-photo] Re: Paractitioners from WWII thru the 1970's

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Richard,

Is there a source you can recommend for reading on Sabbatier Effect with PT/PD?

Thanks
--
Best Wishes,

Mark Nelson
Precision Digital Negatives
PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups

Mark Nelson Photography


On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:12:14 AM, "Richsul Sullivan" <richsul at earthlink.net> wrote:

From:   "Richsul Sullivan" <richsul at earthlink.net>
Subject:    [alt-photo] Re: Paractitioners from WWII thru the 1970's
Date:   March 12, 2010 11:12:14 AM EST
To: "'The alternative photographic processes mailing list'" <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org>
Thanks to all for your input. I have way more than needed for an hour
lecture and PPT. The problem now is to filter out the ones that were seminal
in moving the art along. Todd Walker and Teske clearly were big influences
as they spread the arts through their students. In fact, I remember Teske
carefu8lly mentioning Todd in regards to his sabbatier/toning process, not
really giving Todd credit for turning him on to it. Teske had a heart of
gold and an ego bigger than Texas and was truly a person one would never
forget. He taught in his home studio just off Hollywood Blvd. The only beer
allowed in class was Heineken, in tribute to Bob who took him on at UCLA
despite his very unconventional teaching methods. This was a UCLA class in
the early 70's. On one occasion Isherwood and Bachardy dropped by. Of course
at the time I had no idea who Isherwood was. This was the early 70's and gay
was something done in a closet. Teske had no closet. In that he was one of
the pioneers. 

Sorry to ramble on but I owe a lot to him.

--Dick

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On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Christina Anderson wrote:
>>>> You know, a while ago there was an article in one of the photo mags in
>>>> which
>>>> David Vestal reamed Irving Penn re: his work and implied that they guy
>>>> knew
>>>> nothing about photography. It was deplorable, and just proved to me
that
>>>> Vestal had an axe to grind, but both men's work speaks for itself.
>>>>
>>>> Paul

Is Irving Penn some kind of saint, that to disparage him is sin? Odds are 
anyway we learn more from the crit than we do from same old same old... 
But I don't recall having read photo crit (or anything else) from Penn, so 
his opinions are moot. I have however read a lot of Vestal and find him 
thoughtful and provocative. (Not to mention that if we never grind our 
axes, they get too blunt for damn all... )

J.
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