[alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)

[Diana Bloomfield]

I'm impressed, Paul.  Thanks so much for posting this.  I really like  
the image.  I've made the second coat on mine, which I started  
yesterday, with no registration problems at all.  That makes me really  
happy, because I'd love to forgo the pre-shrink altogether.  Again, I  
had to leave it in the water for far longer than I would if I used  
PVA, but no staining in the end.  It's not a large image (8x8), so I'm  
wondering how this registration would be with something much larger.    
But this is good to know.  Thanks again.

Diana
On Mar 23, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:

> OK, last post on this one...
>
> As mentioned below, the red layer (burnt sienna) pretty much washed  
> off due to underexposure, so today I tried again.
>
> No size, so this is the fourth time it's been coated, cleared and  
> dried. Registration stayed true and highlights have only the  
> slightest hint of warmth.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4458609444/
>
> I'm putting a fork in this one...it's done ;-)
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Viapiano" <viapiano at pacbell.net 
> >
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> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:07 PM
> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)
>
>
>> Diana,
>>
>> Even when I use Fab EW leftover from pt/pd printing, I notice no  
>> stain until the 3rd layer, which is actually its 4th soak (first  
>> soak is in oxalic acid solution to prepare for that process).
>>
>> Even Keith Taylor, who bonds his paper to aluminum and does not  
>> size, is able to print 3 rich tricolor layers and not experience  
>> stain.
>>
>> BTW, I printed a red layer on my print but didn't expose quite long  
>> enough, the sun is hazy today. So all I got was a slightly warmer  
>> color overall and still perfect registration, but no stain.
>>
>> I may continue to press my luck with another layer and maybe even  
>> more posts ;-)
>>
>> Thanks all...
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Bloomfield" <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net 
>> >
>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list" <alt-photo-process-list at lists.altphotolist.org 
>> >
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:47 PM
>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: to shrink or not to shrink (registration)
>>
>>
>>> Hey Paul.  At the risk of racking up too many posts here-- I just   
>>> wanted to let you know that I took one of my pieces of Rives,  
>>> right  out of the flat file (no pre-shrinking or sizing), and I've  
>>> done only  one coat now--  but there was no staining, though I did  
>>> have to leave  it in the water far longer than I normally do.    
>>> I'll let you know  what happens when I try a second coat.  Even  
>>> though there's no  staining with this one coat-- I do miss having  
>>> that slight sheen from  the PVA, so I might just stay with the  
>>> PVA-- but I'm gonna finish this  one out for any registration/ 
>>> staining problems with subsequent layers.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your updates/results.
>>>
>>> Diana
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Diana...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't size and I didn't preshrink. Paper is 10 x 11  
>>>>>> inches,   image size is approx 6 x 6 inches, give or take.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a scan after 2 layers, indigo and then raw sienna, waxed  
>>>>>> paper neg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/viapiano/4454749196/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know what you think...anything at all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx..Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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