[alt-photo] Re: Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 453, Issue 1
dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net
Fri Jul 22 20:43:47 GMT 2011
Well, it's 103 here today (NC), and with the humidity index, it must be about
Chris, I do remember some years ago, when we had a huge hurricane here
(Hurricane Fran, early September 1996), and all these tree-removal guys came
down from NY, (Adirondack area) to help out-- and they were hauling off a huge
old oak from our front yard (that actually across the house-- a whole other
story), and they asked for some water. I went in the house to get them
something to drink, and they said-- "No, no, we like it from the outdoor
spigot." So I showed them where it was-- and for the longest time, they just
let the water run. I could see them just standing there, kind of looking at
each other, dumbfounded. So I asked what was wrong. They wanted to know if
there was something wrong with our water-- if that's the way it just comes out
of the ground. I had no idea what they meant. Finally, they said, "Well, is
this is? Does it ever get cold?" They'd never seen water come out of an
outdoor spigot that wasn't ice cold. And I never knew water came out of an
outdoor spigot any other way-- other than bath water temperature. :)
But how incredible to be in a climate where you don't need the air conditioning.
Well, I have nothing to keep this on-topic-- except that when I returned the
brand-new (dead) 3880 that I'd purchased from B&H, I did end up just buying a
refurbished 3800 from Epson. It's been working like a charm. The repair shop
here did end up fixing mine, but it took and a while, and they basically rebuilt
it. Given what they did, and their (fixed price) repair quote, I *think* I came
out ahead. At least I have 2 working printers now, so if one goes bad, I have a
back-up. So I've been printing away here in my (newly renovated) and nicely
cooled studio. The outside humidity doesn't seem to be having an adverse effect
on anything-- well, on my prints.
From: Nelson Mark <ender100 at aol.com>
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Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 453, Issue 1
hehehehe I know what you mean!
About as important for me when I am traveling around the country is the
HUMIDITY! You run into such variations and it really makes a difference in
printing PT/PD and photopolymer gravure platemaking.
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
> Well, I'm here in LA and temps have been mostly bearable. We've only had a
>week of near 100 temps since summer, but many days btw 88-92. Fortunately, my AC
>doesn't need to be on until the later afternoon most days and we shut it off
>after sundown unless it's still in the high 80-90s. But we do use heat in the
>winter, not as much like eastern climes but still need it. The difference is
>that most of the homes here have terrible insulation unless they've been
>retrofitted. All these crackerbox houses built in the years following after WWII
>are horrible compared to other parts of the country, and the crappy ones in the
>worst neighborhoods are still going for $500k...! Don't get me started... ;-)
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelson Mark" <ender100 at aol.com>
> To: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk at ix.netcom.com>; "The alternative photographic
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> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:49 AM
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>> It's been beastly hot here near Chicago.... We had a storm front come in last
>>night and it is cooled down some. I'm always surprised when I travel to other
>>parts of the country where people don't need air conditioning or don't need much
>>in the way of heating. Here near Chicago with extremes in cold/hot & humidity,
>>it seems we either have the air conditioning or heating running all year round.
>> Best Wishes,
>> Mark Nelson
>> PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups
>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Anderson" <zphoto at montana.net>
>>> To: "The alternative photographic processes mailing list"
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>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:40 AM
>>> Subject: [alt-photo] Re: Alt-photo-process-list Digest, Vol 453, Issue 1
>>>> Well, it is was so hot here in MN that my wood floors which are atop a cold
>>>>basement in this almost 100-year old house were wet. No air conditioning here.
>>>> But the heat finally broke, sort of.
>>>> I remember when I moved to South Carolina for grad school, I was shocked to
>>>>find out the water came out of the faucets bathtub temp. I had never even
>>>>thought that occurred, always having lived in northern climes where the well
>>>>water or city water pipes were buried deep in the ground and hence water was
>>>>always 55 degrees or so.
>>>> To keep it on topic, when I first started using Maco Infrared film, that
>>>>emulsion was so soft that it would ding and slough in the 70's. Had to always be
>>>>careful to keep the developing temp low with that film.
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>> Allowable processing temperatures have gone up considerably over the years.
>>>Up to about 1940 the "standard" temperature was 65F, then it was increased to
>>>68F. Not a big difference but it showed the progress in emulsion hardness of the
>>>time. Emulsion frilling, reticulation, and grain migration due to emulsion
>>>swelling were common problems. I think we have stepped backwards with some of
>>>the current films made by small companies who don't have or can't apply the
>>>technology developed by the big guys.
>>> Richard Knoppow
>>> Los Angeles, CA, USA
>>> dickburk at ix.netcom.com
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