[alt-photo] Re: Carl Weese's Drive-In project

KISS BOB bobkiss at caribsurf.com
Tue Apr 3 21:37:44 GMT 2012 

I think Carl's sense of urgency stems from his hope to 
SAVE the drive ins and keep them open...not to just to 
photograph them.  I think he sees the photos as a means to 
raise public consciousness about the drive ins and not 
only as an end in and of themselves.


On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:04:24 -0700
  Mark Nelson <ender100 at aol.com> wrote:
> There are some cloud formations I want to photograph in 
>Asia that cannot wait, so send your money to me! 
> 
> Mark Nelson
> www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com
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> 
> sent from my iPhonetypeDeviceThingy
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Keith Gerling 
><keith.gerling at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Not to tell Carl how to do his job, but won't these 
>>Drive-Ins look a lot
>> more "picturesque" after they are abandoned for a few 
>>years and all crumbly
>> with faded paint and covered with vines?  Sorry, but the 
>>urgency isn't
>> doing it for me.  Let them "mellow" a bit.
>> 
>> On the other hand, I happen to photograph old grain 
>>elevators, which
>> require the same degree of travel, and they really ARE 
>>falling apart, and I
>> have to get there NOW - so any spare change is welcome!!
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Diana Bloomfield <
>> dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Chris,
>>> 
>>> Well, I read about this, and it seems like a great and 
>>>really worthwhile
>>> project.  I've certainly photographed a lot of drive-in 
>>>movie theaters over
>>> the years-- they are definitely a wonderful part of 
>>>American culture and
>>> certainly of another time and place.  I love the whole 
>>>idea and would love
>>> to travel across the country and do the same.
>>> 
>>> But I have to say-- unless I missed something in here-- 
>>>and, no doubt I
>>> probably did-- is he just asking for monetary support to 
>>>help with the
>>> travel and the project itself?   If so, this has got to 
>>>be the 3rd (and I
>>> just received yet another this morning, from a 
>>>multi-media artist) request
>>> for monetary support for an artistic venture that I've 
>>>seen in the last two
>>> months.
>>> 
>>> I guess I must be seriously out of touch, because I 
>>>remember a time when
>>> you'd have a photographic project in mind-- and no 
>>>matter how impressive
>>> the project was, or what it might do for others-- or how 
>>>much it might
>>> ultimately resonate with people-- and, hopefully, sell 
>>>like hotcakes-- you
>>> just forged ahead and carried out your project, because 
>>>you believed in it,
>>> even if it was years-long, and hoped for the best.
>>> 
>>> Now what seems to be the norm is for artists to ask for 
>>>monetary support
>>> (from regular people, not from grant panels) to travel 
>>>all over the
>>> country, or to help hang a show (under the guise of 
>>>selling prints and then
>>> donating money to some food group or whatever), or to 
>>>keep their co-op
>>> gallery doors open (basically paying their mortgage, 
>>>because it will help
>>> us all, as we're all-inclusive, and anybody can hang 
>>>work there!), or
>>> whatever.
>>> 
>>> The last time I mentioned this to someone-- that I 
>>>simply go out and
>>> photograph and print and hang shows (all with my own 
>>>funds-- or, if I'm
>>> lucky, with a grant)-- and that I've never once thought 
>>>about sending out a
>>> call for money to individuals, so I can essentially do 
>>>my work I've elected
>>> to do (nobody is making me do it)-- never once thinking 
>>>about sending out a
>>> call to everybody I know for money to carry out those 
>>>projects-- I sounded
>>> like some sort of curmudgeon-- but, seriously, I'm so 
>>>confused.  I just
>>> don't get it.
>>> 
>>> Maybe Carl's call for support is slightly different-- 
>>>I'm not sure-- at
>>> first glance, it just seemed to be the type of request I 
>>>seem to be seeing
>>> all the time now.  Given this economy, too, I just find 
>>>it odd that people
>>> are doing this.
>>> 
>>> So is it just me?  While I understand the need for funds 
>>>to support
>>> artistic projects, wouldn't going straight to 
>>>corporations or foundations
>>> that often fund artistic projects, or book publishers 
>>>or-- as Bob said--
>>> some high-powered movie mogul-- be more worthwhile?
>>> 
>>> The request I received this morning was from a 
>>>multi-media artist who
>>> wants to make 100 prints or something, hoping to sell it 
>>>all, and then
>>> donate the proceeds to some Hunger group.  That's 
>>>admirable.  But if I was
>>> gonna give any money, I'd simply donate to our local 
>>>food bank directly.
>>> This request, of course, is from a person who has 
>>>received at least two
>>> (possibly 3?) State Art Fellowships (worth $10K each) in 
>>>the last several
>>> years and who also has a 'regular' job.  She's asking 
>>>for a little less
>>> than $3,000 to complete her project.  I'm just 
>>>dumbfounded by that.  It
>>> seems to me she's savvy enough to know how to ask for 
>>>money from
>>> established foundations, not from other individual 
>>>artists.
>>> 
>>> So . . .  before everybody jumps on me, is this some 
>>>kind of new trend,
>>> and are 'regular' people out there (including struggling 
>>>artists) really
>>> donating money all the time to other people's artistic 
>>>projects?  Does that
>>> really work?  If so, could someone give some pointers 
>>>here, because I think
>>> I might start doing that, too.  I cannot believe I've 
>>>been bopping along
>>> here (mostly) paying for my own printing, traveling, 
>>>supplies, etc.  How
>>> dumb is that??
>>> 
>>> Diana
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> One more shameless promotion, by one of our own listees. 
>>>>Carl Weese of
>>>> ziatype fame. When going through the 60,000 emails in 
>>>>the archives I found
>>>> lots of help from Carl over the years, though he does 
>>>>not actively post
>>>> anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> Carl is doing a drive-in theatre project across the 
>>>>country and you can
>>>> read about it here!
>>>> 
>>>> http://courantblogs.com/rick-**green/vanishing-drive-in-**
>>>> theaters-carl-weeses-big-**dream/<http://courantblogs.com/rick-green/vanishing-drive-in-theaters-carl-weeses-big-dream/>
>>>> 
>>>> I really believe in this project because I am 
>>>>sentimentally attached to
>>>> the drivein theatre as it was part of my childhood. In 
>>>>fact, the one in
>>>> Minnesota I used to go to in the summers was resurrected 
>>>>a number of years
>>>> back. WIll have to check if it is still so.
>>>> 
>>>> Carl has teamed with Kickstarter to fund this very 
>>>>ambitious project.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>>> christinaZanderson.com
>>>> 
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