[alt-photo] Re: ***NOW HEAR (READ?) THIS: COT IS AVAILABLE! was Daniel Smith paper chart!

[Christina Anderson]

Bob,
That is good to know, emphatically as well. Now I won't forget. Thanks, Don--I just emailed them with two questions below (source and kind).

The two perhaps "rumors" that I've heard about Bergger is a) hardly available and b) identical to Arches Platine but sized in a different way. Someone opened their package somewhere and saw a Platine label on it or something, in the archives. I have both here, and by feel they seem identical (back is a bit more textured than the smooth front on Platine).

I'm trying to essentially simplify a paper list of the must-haves, the ones that kept coming up on the Alt list through over a decade of archives. It's great that Bergger is available directly from the company, as is Weston from John Zowkowski (another excellent but fragile paper), but a PITA when some of these great papers aren't available from the main paper sources or alt chemical sources.

BTW thank you to all for responding about paper sources. DIana, thanks for Talas (did not have that one). Also, I know what you mean about shipping but at least Freestyle has gone to biodegradable (starch?) peanuts. I always bite into one when I get a package that has them, and if they are plastic, aside from spitting out I recycle to UPS (not the bit one). But I think the plastic ones should be absolutely outlawed. Also, I don't have a problem with D. Smith shipping time because I live only a few states away, but I find their shipping quite...pricey. I now buy papers in bulk when I can and when sales go on and shipping is free. Last time I ordered Fabriano Artistico from Jerry's it was on sale so I ordered 250 sheets! That nearly broke my bank, but I figure paper does not go down in price, especially Jerry's price.

Also, Mark, thanks for Graphic source. 
Chris

Christina Z. Anderson
christinaZanderson.com

On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:51 AM, BOB KISS wrote:

> DEAR CHRISTINA & ALL ON LIST,
> 	Regularly I read about problems getting COT 320.  It has become an
> "urban myth".  I know that B&S is no longer stocking it.
> *****Please, please, pretty please, one and for all, let's put to bed the
> misconception that there is any problem what-so-ever getting COT 320 in any
> sizes directly from Bergger US as Don suggested.  I contacted Bergger US and
> they had to paper on its way to me here in Barbados the next day.  Why
> bother with any retailers when you can get it directly.
> 	So, at the risk of being repetitively redundant, over and over
> again, COT 320 is alive, well, and available directly from Bergger US.  
> 		CHEERS!
> 			BOB 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On Behalf Of
> Christina Anderson
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:21 PM
> To: Alt List
> Subject: [alt-photo] Daniel Smith paper chart!
> 
> Dear LIst,
> 
> http://www.danielsmith.com/Docs_PDF/ComparativePaperChart.pdf
> 
> Found the above link today which is going to come in handy as I test 20 or
> so papers in different processes for the revision of my Alt Proc Cond book.
> This week it is Ware's vs. Traditional Cyanotype.
> 
> Paper specificity (and humidity, 18%) are the bane of my existence at the
> moment. There are some papers that are pretty darn foolproof with processes
> like argyrotype and cyanotype--Weston, Platine, Crane's Cover, Cot320, for
> instance. Some others are very unsuitable without going to the next step of
> citric acid in the mix, tween, oxalic acid soak of the paper, etc., not
> always the best to do when first teaching processes to students (one more
> step).
> 
> What is the story of Cot 320--is it continuing to be made or only made a
> couple times a year or what?
> 
> Next question: am I right that Kinsella closed? And, of course, Aiko in IL
> closed, too, a number of years back because I bought a bunch of paper from
> them...
> 
> Sorry for the Americentric question, but I think the big paper sellers in
> the States are the following; am I missing a favorite seller of someone's?
> 
> Jerry's Artarama
> Daniel Smith
> NY Central
> http://www.hiromipaper.com/ ?
> www.dolphinpapers.biz
> Legion paper 
> 
> The other bane of my existence is the sudden and automatic Apple printer
> driver updates that wreak havoc with the printer. My students had a BUST
> assignment with argyrotype even with suitable papers, and custom curves a la
> PDN.  I was beginning to fear for this class's intelligence until finally a
> former student who is doing the uranotype found his tonal palette was all
> over the place too and being that he works in Checkout and runs the
> equipment we got it figured out. So uninstalling the Apple driver and
> reinstalling the 3800 driver downloaded from Epson did the trick. Those of
> you with Apple auto updates--if you all of a sudden have issues, this could
> be the problem. It's a sneaky little bugger. Those of you using the QTR
> driver, I suppose this wouldn't be an issue.
> 
> Weeks like this make me want to retire from teaching alt :) Thank GOD for a
> long holiday weekend.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Christina Z. Anderson
> christinaZanderson.com
> 
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