[alt-photo] Re: casein

BOB KISS bobkiss at caribsurf.com
Tue Jun 12 16:43:30 GMT 2012


DEAR CHRIS,
	I only have thigh high silk stockings that clip onto my red satin
garter belt.  Can I use them instead of the knee highs?  I am guessing that
my fishnets are too coarse to properly filter out the whey, right?
	As Mark likes to say, "HeHeHe"
		CHEERS!
			BOB


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Christina Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:13 PM
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Subject: [alt-photo] casein

Dear All,

I"ve been working on casein research over the last number of months as you
know (with a hiatus for a month's travel in May). I'm about done the
literature part. Someone on the list asked me to share so here it is.

Next week I go to Eastman House to complete the research in old journals of
the time. Very excited to do that, but may not find much is my guess. We'll
see.

If anyone knows of alt happenings in Rochester NY the 19th through the 30th
I'd love to know.

I do have a question for those of you who do carbon; Mr. J. R. Johnson was
the patenter in 1870, and I think if I am not mistaken he made a commercial
carbon paper. Part of me wonders if anyone has checked casein as an
ingredient in any of these manufactured papers, including Fresson. It is so
fine grained and soooo stable. I am still wondering why it didn't take off,
or, if it did. I know it was suggested as a replacement for collodion and
albumen in glass plate negatives as early as 1858, it was suggested to
replace albumen in 1916 because at that time eggs were expensive and scarce.
All of these not casein-pigment printing but casein-silver emulsion.

Anyway, I had reviewed all of Franklin Enos' archives at the University of
Kentucky, Louisville a year or so ago. Took notes. Come to find out, a lot
of those great notes were summed up in the July/August 1987 AVISO newsletter
of the New Pictorialist Society. I don't know if the society still exists,
or if Theisen is alive still?

I got down to research in making homemade casein. To date I had used two
forms of readymade casein, Schmincke and Kremer. Also casein from powder,
both ammonium and sodium forms (don't consider those "homemade"). I had yet
to tackle homemade casein from milk, etc., thinking it too putzy and didn't
want to work with ammonia fumes or glacial acetic acid. But I bit the bullet
and did so because I wanted to see if there was a difference in performance
between homemade and store-bought.

Come to find out, making homemade casein is a no-brainer! Goodness. Why was
I so afraid? Like all of these alt processes, they are way less complex than
one would have us believe.

With powdered milk and vinegar (tried glacial acetic, citric acid powder,
and vinegar in side by side tests and even exposed all three solutions side
by side with no difference, all work fine so plain old vinegar is my choice)
the curd forms immediately and is ready in under an hour. Didn't go out and
buy cheesecloth--just used a knee-high nylon to drain off the whey.

Then with a tad of janitorial strength ammonia (which is 10%, but regular
household ammonia is undetermined less than 3%-10% and would work just fine)
it is amazing how quickly the curd liquifies into a pearly clear solution
that...yes....looks just like the casein in Schmincke and Kremer.

The easiest by far was taking a container of cottage cheese, rinsing off the
liquid and plopping some ammonia on top. THAT took only an hour to go into
solution. I used it right away.

Enos recommends 60-75cc of 10% ammonia to 2 oz. cottage cheese. I started
with just 50ml to 8 oz (to see how much is actually needed to dissolve the
curd first) and it went into solution perfectly. However, that proportion is
way too thick like the Schmincke gooey thickness. Enos liked his casein on
the thin side, so I realized varying the amount of ammonia in the  cottage
cheese would supply all sorts of dilutions and is the easiest because one
only needs cottage cheese and ammonia, and could even rinse it in a strainer
and forego the nylon.

This is VERY cheap. And no need to order casein.

So far just using powdered pigments because I want to avoid making judgments
on casein with any modicum of gum arabic involved. With just casein, there
is no gloss.

I am finding casein shorter scale than gum in all my tests. Need to
investigate that further. If I vary the pot di strength it still doesn't
matter...several stops at best of DR compared to gum of 4-6.

That's it for now.

Chris



Christina Z. Anderson
christinaZanderson.com

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