[alt-photo] Re: canson and cyanotype

Christina Anderson zphoto at montana.net
Fri Mar 2 22:04:05 GMT 2012

It came from England, I think, or, at least, is sold there under the label Crob'Art. It is apparently used by albumen and pt/pd people. So I would google that name with any old art store in GB before doing it through Amazon.

It is surprisingly sturdy while thin, and flattens nicely. It is MUCH more substantial than the other paper I am also trying, the Pro Marker which is only 18lb but also said to be good for alt. 

It feels the thickness of, say, two pieces of 24 lb typing paper stuck together. Feels almost "masa-ish" when dry, sort of crisp and crackly sounding.

I don't mean to occupy so much e-wavetime here, it's just when I'm testing this huge batch of stuff at once I figured someone on the list will save some time and money.

John, see here? Canson Crob’Art Acid Free Sketch Paper 9”x12” Ref:797-101

and here: http://notesonphotographs.org/images/d/d4/Osterman_2007_Making_Albumen_Prints.pdf

Christina Z. Anderson

On Mar 2, 2012, at 12:21 PM, John Brewer wrote:

> Thanks Chris, I'll be definitely be trying it. 65LB/96gsm is pretty
> lightweight, how are the prints when dry? Are the fairly flat or easy to
> flatten?  For UK alters it's available on Amazon.co.uk
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Canson-Universal-Sketch-Pad-11x14/dp/B005Z3TURQ
> John.
> On 2 March 2012 17:43, Mary <gneissgirl at spamcop.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for this, Chris. I'll be leading a one-day workshop on "scanotypes"
>> in early May at a local printmaking studio here in Boise, Wingtip Press.
>> We'll be scanning stuff, making digital negatives from the scans, and
>> printing cyanotypes. At least that's the plan. Hoping it's not too much for
>> one day....
>> We'll provide various papers and fabrics to print on during the workshop,
>> and participants often ask for suggestions of good papers to use for
>> cyanotype. This sounds like a great option for both in-class and after.
>> Can't beat the price!
>> Thanks again for the tip!
>> Mary
>> On 3/2/2012 8:46 AM, Christina Anderson wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> Still testing papers for cyanotype, 8 more yesterday with another 8 or so
>>> to go, but I found one which is an absolute must for teaching because of
>>> its cost, URL below. It is available at Freestyle for--get this--$9 for 100
>>> sheets (plus shipping) for 11x14. It is quite white, quite smooth, prints
>>> cyanotype very well, Traditional formula 1:1 is about a 7.5 to a 9.5 minute
>>> exposure time if under a Pictorico negative. Temp in darkroom 72, humidity
>>> 30%.
>>> It is apparently Crob Art (?) in Europe so altees there would already
>>> know about it under a different name.
>>> http://freestylephoto.biz/**702193-Canson-Universal-**
>>> Sketch-Pad-Uncoated-Paper-for-**Alternative-Process<http://freestylephoto.biz/702193-Canson-Universal-Sketch-Pad-Uncoated-Paper-for-Alternative-Process>
>>> I usually have them start on Weston for cyanotype because it is so cheap
>>> and really a nice paper for its cost (hard to do a two layer process
>>> though), somewhere around $2 for a very large sheet over 22x30. So you
>>> understand why I am excited about the above. Heck, I could sport for a $10
>>> pad for the entire class and each student could do 5 prints for around 50
>>> cents!
>>> It is very thin so I was skeptical, but is actually quite sturdy when dry.
>>> I will be testing it as well with argyrotype and pt/pd but that is down
>>> the road. If it works for those processes, then I can see requiring one pad
>>> for each student for the semester, but we'll see...anyone already use it
>>> for these processes?
>>> Also, tested Canson Opalux Vellum also from Freestyle now, and that would
>>> be about a 6 minute exposure time, same everything Traditional. It is a
>>> VERY thick vellum, about twice as thick as a Vidalon. See thru. Quite
>>> translucent as you can read text through it except through darkest cyano
>>> steps.
>>> Disclaimer: I am on the Freestyle Educational Advisory Board but in no
>>> way do I get paid or get kickbacks or whatever. But I sure do get excited
>>> when they decide to carry alt supplies...
>>> Chris
>>> Christina Z. Anderson
>>> christinaZanderson.com
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