[alt-photo] Re: Preshrinking paper for gum?

[Diana Bloomfield]

Hey Kurt,

I use the 140 lb.  I actually like 300 lb paper, in general-- I like working with it, like card stock-- but it's too much of a pain to cut, so until I start making 22x30 prints, I'll stick with the 140 lb.  And it doesn't wrinkle like (I find)  the hot press does.  

Jerry's Artarama sells it, but only online.  At least I can't find it at our local Jerry's here, though they seem to stock everything else.  Dick Blick sells it, too, and probably some other places-- but Jerry's always seems to be the least expensive.  We have a small local art store here that is fantastic, with a whole upstairs full of paper.  If they don't have something, they're always willing to order it for me-- so you might try the same where you are.  Still, I find Jerry's to be the best deal $$-wise. 

Let us know how you like it.

Diana

On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kurt Nagy wrote:

> Appreciate the info too Diana.  I'll have to try out your paper.  Did you say you used the 140 or 300lb soft press?  Do you find it locally or order it?
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> On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> Hey Paul,
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>> I always think the Rives has a linen look-- not texture-- but you can see linen pattern on it, which I like a lot.  But-- yeah-- I guess that soft press could be described that way.  It just seems like a light texture to me, but flat-- not raised so much, like the cold press or rough.  It's been great, though, and has greatly simplified my life.  Thanks again.
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>> Diana
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Paul Viapiano wrote:
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>>> Diana, I usually describe the SP as having a light linen texture. 
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>>> P
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>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Diana Bloomfield <dlhbloomfield at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> No problem, Kurt.  :)  I said that, because I'm always mentioning this paper here, it seems-- mostly sounding like a broken record and like I have a lot of stock in it-- so I thought you were being funny.  Never mind.  So, yes;  there seems to be a difference between soft press and cold press.  Technically, I'm not actually sure what the real differences are-- and, truth be told, I've never used the cold press-- so maybe it performs in exactly the same way as the soft press (though I'm guessing not).  But when I see the cold press, it has much more texture to it-- in both look and feel-- than the soft press.  Fabriano also sells yet another that they label "rough press," and that seems to have the most texture of all-- that's pretty rough looking stuff.  I have no idea what people use that for, except as a substitute for regular sheetrock.;)  So I would say the soft press is somewhere between hot press and cold press-- it has a texture, but very fine.
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>>>> Hope that helps.
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>>>> So thanks about the COT320 information, too.  I'm definitely trying it.
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>>>> Diana
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>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Kurt Nagy wrote:
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>>>>> My apologies, I was being neither.  Is there a difference between soft press or cold press?  I was asking to see if there was a difference as I don't like the texture of cold press but I got my words all jumbled :)
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>>>>> No I do not preshrink or size COT 320. First layer is cyanotype and go from there :)
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>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> Hey Kurt,
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>>>>>> I can never tell if someone is being funny or not (online)-- but, yeah, it's Fabriano soft-press.  ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Diana
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>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Kurt Nagy wrote:
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>>>>>>> So I guess I read wrong at first.  I meant to ask for examples of the press type you use, so "soft" press, not cold press
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>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Their cold press is very textured.  I've never tried it.  I like smooth papers for platinum printing, but for gum-- I don't know-- I like a little texture.  So are you doing gum on COT 320, then?  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Diana
>>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Kurt Nagy wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Do you have an examples of their cold press?  I like smooth hot press papers, I'm currently using COT 320 and have no issues but I'd like to see what Fabriano looks like.
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>>>>>>>>> I don't size with COT 320 and get great results (I think)
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>>>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Diana Bloomfield <dhbloomfield at bellsouth.n
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