[Alt-photo] Re: Papers for Palladium

Wed Nov 6 23:46:08 UTC 2013

When I coat a 9" x 12" piece of Tosa washi, I usually have three
 overlapping "rows" moving from right to left. When I finish the third row,
I begin brushing from the far side bottom to top or from closest to me to
furthest from me. Usually there are four of these "columns". The unsized
paper will allow the chemistry to spread to the neighboring column or row.
It works well enough for a camera based image. For one of my scanner based
botanicals, the sheer surface area needed to be the densest is when this
brushing technique fails. For these images, I double coat with the paper
rotated 180 degrees.

Coating must be done with the paper on top of felt just like Japanese and
Chinese calligraphy.

Nishimaru and the paper makers opted for the thin weight to make the paper
as archival as possible (easy to wash out the iron salts). They are calling
platinum prints on this paper, 500 year photographs.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, dhowk <dhowk at comcast.net> wrote:

> Unsized Kozo or similar paper does seem to require a different coating
> method. His brushing on of the sensitizer looks good, but I wonder about
> potential streaking. I've adopted a puddle method for Goyu Kozo wherein I
> add extra water to the sensitizer mix. Pour on sheet of glass making a
> puddle, then lay the paper on top. When dry, treat it as normal.
> Doug Howk
> Jacksonville, FL
> dhowk at comcast.net
> www.vanHuyckPhoto.com
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Kurt Nagy wrote:
>
>  Very awesome!
>>  I'd like to try that.  I've used Kozo paper in cyanotype and loved it
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:12 PM, francis schanberger <frangst at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Here is Nishimaru-san working with the Tosa Washi.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLIt_qD0JlU
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Loris Medici <mail at loris.medici.name>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I think this video shows how they make this particular paper:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjw1qMQrE4I
>>>>
>>>> This master papermaker makes it look almost too easy, and that's exactly
>>>> how masters make look things. I'm sure doing it is hard as hell...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Loris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/11/6 francis schanberger <frangst at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>  The link goes to Photography Gallery International. The pages are in
>>>>> Japanese but can be translated through Google or Bing. The page also
>>>>> has
>>>>> videos of Nishimaru-san working with the paper as well as video on the
>>>>> making of the paper.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.pgi.ac/cart/product/p-1435.html
>>>>>
>>>>> -francis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:33 PM, andy schmitt <aschmitt at aandy.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I hope I didn't miss it but I'd love the link to see Nashimaru-san
>>>>>>
>>>>> coat &
>>>>
>>>>> process..... thank you
>>>>>> Ps.. is the paper available for purchase?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andy Schmitt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Head of The New & Improved Photography Dept,
>>>>>> Peters Valley School of Craft
>>>>>> http://www.petersvalley.org/html/Photography.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org
>>>>>> [mailto:alt-photo-process-list-bounces at lists.altphotolist.org] On
>>>>>>
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>
>>>>> Of
>>>>>> francis schanberger
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:58 PM
>>>>>> To: The alternative photographic processes mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: Papers for Palladium
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to put this out there. The wonderful papermakers in Ino Town,
>>>>>>
>>>>> Japan
>>>>
>>>>> with the help of platinum printer Masayuki Nishimaru and photographer
>>>>>> Satoru
>>>>>> Yoshioka (as well as his wife Ayako) have created a new paper
>>>>>>
>>>>> specifically
>>>>>
>>>>>> for printing platinum and palladium which they are calling
>>>>>>
>>>>> Tosahakkinshi
>>>>
>>>>> aka
>>>>>> Tosa Washi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is extremely light weight (30 gsm) which requires a different
>>>>>>
>>>>> approach
>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>> coating (brush, no coating rod). There is a video of Nishimaru-san
>>>>>>
>>>>> coating
>>>>>
>>>>>> and processing the paper of which I can send a link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am organizing a June workshop near Roswell, New Mexico in which I
>>>>>>
>>>>> will
>>>>
>>>>> demonstrate how to handle this amazing yet challenging paper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An exhibition of work made on this paper just concluded at the
>>>>>> Japanese
>>>>>> Paper Museum in Ino, Japan but should be traveling to Kyotographie
>>>>>> (the
>>>>>> international Kyoto Photography Festival).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -francis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Diana Bloomfield
>>>>>> <dlhbloomfield at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hey Laura,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Fabriano soft-press does have texture to it (not smooth like the
>>>>>>> hot-press), but not nearly as textured as the cold-press.  But the
>>>>>>> soft-press is the only Fabriano that I was able to use with no
>>>>>>> additional sizing or pre-shrinking.  The others (in my experience)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> required that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, Talas has that Rives heavyweight in 300 gsm, but I've not seen
>>>>>>> it at 400.  Maybe there's not much difference between 300 and 400
>>>>>>> (well, you know, except or 100). :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Diana
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Laura V wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Oh that's great to know! I had already ordered the paper (from
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Smith)...the Rives is 280 gsm (called heavyweight), because I didn't
>>>>>>> realize it was available in 400 weight until I saw Chia's post after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> had ordered. I used to draw on it, and remember it as nice paper. I
>>>>>>> got the Fabriano hot press - 640 gsm! - which I've used before and
>>>>>>> loved. I didn't like the cold press, but the soft press sounds
>>>>>>> interesting, perhaps I'll give it a try sometime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laura
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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