[Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief and Contact Print with Wax Relief

[Mustafa Umut Sarac]

Dave and All , Thank you for comparison , what could be done to get carving
like relief from gelatin block. Is it more expose or more sensitizer.
Are those two damage the sharpness ?

And for photopolymers , what is the color of photopolymer , is it
transparent or opaque or colored , half transparent. What is the maximum
depth of relief of photopolymers. I need the brand , product and suppliers
list.

Thank you,
Umut



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Thank you. My heart goes to wax but your suggestion is excellent and I had
> been posted to APUG this morning. Which photopolymers could be purchased ?
> And Where from ? Is it silk screening polymer ? I dont know any brand and
> product. Please shed some light.
>
> Thank you ,
> Umut
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Dave S <fotodave at dsoemarko.us> wrote:
>
>> Have you checked photopolymer plate? That might make things easy for you.
>> You can buy the plate for experiments and if it works,  you can buy liquid
>> photopolymer and make your own plates.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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>> Mustafa Umut Sarac
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:20 PM
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>> Subject: [Alt-photo] Re: ALT- Lithophane, Wax Molding of Gelatin Relief
>> and
>> Contact Print with Wax Relief
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I read cnc cut plastic lithophane tutorial.
>>
>> http://www.vectric.com/WebSite/Vectric/pvc/docs/Machining_Lithophanes.pdf
>>
>> White plastic requires 2.5 mm relief depth. Is it possible to make 5 mm
>> thick relief with gelatin ?
>>
>> Umut
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
>> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Craig ,Thank you .
>> > All , is there anybody who knows the depth of relief on wax lithaphone
>> > hand carving master ? And can anyone compare gelatin relief to wax
>> relief.
>> >
>> > Umut
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Craig Zammiello
>> <zamm at optonline.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Umut,
>> >> Ah, I see.
>> >> Ok, I'm not familiar with these processes. Sounds very interesting.
>> >> Best of luck,
>> >> Regards, C
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
>> >> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello Craig ,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am after roundness of hand crafted lithophane wax block lit from
>> >> > background.
>> >> > I know carbon and pyro is after that but I am simplifying the all.
>> >> > I am after making deep relief on to wax with using gelatin relief
>> >> > and
>> >> than
>> >> > using wax as my negative on the paper.
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone and you share what you think , I would be glad.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Umut
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Craig Zammiello
>> >> > <zamm at optonline.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Mustafa,
>> >> >> Not quite sure what you are after... Sounds kind of like a
>> >> >> stanotype I think, basically getting rid of the need of a
>> >> >> hydraulic press to
>> >> create the
>> >> >> lead plate of the Woodburytype process.
>> >> >> Can you elaborate a bit more on what exactly your end goal is? Is
>> >> >> it
>> >> the
>> >> >> mechanical printing from a matrix or more-so a photographic
>> >> >> chemical reaction using a wax negative?
>> >> >> Best, Craig Z.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:38 PM, Mustafa Umut Sarac <
>> >> >> mustafaumutsarac at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hello ,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am thinking to reach a higher quality with Darwin the
>> >> >>> processes. I
>> >> was
>> >> >>> researching woodburytype , lithophane and carbon and found a
>> >> >>> hybrid
>> >> way.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am thinking to contact print a 6x17cms negative on to
>> >> >>> dichromated
>> >> >> gelatin
>> >> >>> and obtain a relief like carbon. Than pour or press wax on to it
>> >> >>> ,
>> >> get a
>> >> >>> wax block and than contact print with that wax block on to paper.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Does it work and how can I engineer the whole process ?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I want a hand carving wax relief and better result than the
>> >> >>> negative
>> >> to
>> >> >>> contact print route.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thank you,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mustafa Umut Sarac
>> >> >>> Istanbul
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