Re: Processing 4x5 sheet film

Per Volledal (pervo@powertech.no)
Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:48:03 +0100

Hi again.
Thanks for the overwhelming response. I use a Jobo CPE-2, which has got
only two possibilities when it comes to processing, on or off. The speed is
fixed, and in my opinion quite fast. It works very well for negatives to be
used for gelatin prints, with some developers at least. Nowadays I use
Arista 400 sheet film (for some reason I treat it just like HP5+). This is
a film I believe has got a nice contrast range, quite easy to control.
I have tried several developers. Rodinal has been a favourite for many
years, no matter what other developers I mess with, I always return to
Rodinal. I have tried it at 1+25 and 1+50. And T-Max, HC110 dil. B, PMK and
a Pyro-triethanolamine developer from Photographers' Formulary, prewetting
and different dilutions. All work very nice for gelatin prints.

One example when it comes to cyanotypes; in an attempt to get low contrast,
I used a pinhole camera with the Arista film. I photographed (is that the
right word?) a waterfall at dusk - really low contrast conditions. The
negative, processed in the Jobo, showed nice detail in the running water
when viewed in daylight. I mix cyanotype according to the "Keepers of
light" instructions, but after illumination I had nice blue foliage and
rocks, but totally white water without any detail.
I do not know if I have the patience to burn in a print for 10 minutes.

I have successfully made cyanotypes when I copied normal 35mm negatives
onto the Arista film with a slide copier on an SLR, and enlarged these
positives onto lith film.

When it comes to density or contrst ranges, I really do not know. I have
never used at densitometer or a stepwedge. In my experience, a negative is
OK if it looks dull, but with detail both in the dark and transparent
areas. I can take care of the rest in printing (gelatin). I don't like
dense negatives. Too much overall density just adds grain and time in the
darkroom.

I really had hoped I could avoid buying more gadgets for processing. I
could use the Jobo 2500 tanks with the 2509 reels for hand-processing, but
by using the small tank (4 negatives) it needs one-and-a-half liter of
developer, and the double for the larger tank. In a daylight tank, I
believe I could develop something like 12 negatives in about 1,6 liter?
I have read about the BTZS tubes, but are the not to be used in darkness?

I have planned to try the Windisch extreme compensating catechol developer,
but have not yet had the time. When using rollfilm, the old Stoeckler
2-bath developer gives quite low density in the highlights. But with very
little agitation.

Thanks again.

Per

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>On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 LLSFe@aol.com wrote:
>> Your Jobo is probably the best solution for you. There are developers that
>> are slower working but not weak that you might use. One of Ansel Adams'
>> ....Best wishes,
>>
>> Lynn
>
>Let me second Lynn's and John Buford's suggestions. I spent one of the
>worst years of my life (relatively speaking) trying to tame Kodak
>Professional Copy Film in a Jobo -- the old model, hand rotated, not with
>the machine.
>
>It isn't clear to me from Per's letter what method of rotation he's using,
>but I found that the *slowest* rate by machine was about 10 times faster
>than worked.
>
>The very contrasty PCF finally performed perfectly with one rotation every
>20 to 30 seconds (I'd tried as low as 45!) and a switch to Rodinal, 1 to
>60 as I recall.... but we don't know what film Per is using so can't say
>more there. However, a film coming out too contrasty for *cyanotype* is
>pretty well up there, which does raise one other possibility -- a change of
>film -- but that is almost certainly not necessary.
>
>Well there is yet another possibility -- cyanotype gets terrifically
>contrasty on certain papers. You might find one that's softer. Have you
>got a densitometer, or are you reading it by step tablet? What is the
>"too-contrasty" density range?
>
>Judy