Re: Carbon printing

Luis Nadeau (nadeaul@nbnet.nb.ca)
Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:51:50 -0400

At 9:21 AM 98/04/03, Wayde Allen wrote:
...
>Yes, I'm making my own tissue. I can't say I've turned out anything
>spectacular yet, but it is improving. Right now, my biggest problems are
>the creation of enlarged negatives, and the correct pigment concentration
>needed for the carbon tissue manufacture. I've just started experimenting
>with using Lith film for enlarged negatives

You are making your life complicated. At the learning stage you should take
the easiest route. One you are comfortable with the process then you can
experiment. I suggest you use 4"x5" continuous tone negatives (enlarged or
not).

, and am closing in on the
>pigment problem. So far, my images are full-scale, but a bit low in
>contrast.
>
>> The more troubling thing for me is the baryta transfer paper. Images on
>> raw paper (even good hot-pressed) just don't do much for me. An old (19th
>> C) book I hope I can locate again gave a recipe for precipitating barium
>> sulfate in a gelatin solution (saying that dispersing powdered barium
>> sulfate in solution is difficult and gives poor results because the
>> particle size is too large), so I suppose I could try that. Someone

The industry usually brushes baryta coatings on paper, up to 4 times for
glossy papers.

>> recently suggested that one of the liquid emulsion makers supplies baryta
>> in gelatin suspension for underlayers; if so, that might be useful. Do you
>> know of any other possibilities? Have you tried any other "shiny" papers
>> -- clay-coat, etc? I know I can get silver paper and fix it out, but (1)
>> even with outdated paper this is a bit expensive,

With single transfer you can use the same support repeatedly, until you
like the results. Just wipe out the image with a sponge saturated with hot
water. Don't try to do this with platinum printing;-)

and (2) one of the nice
>> things about carbon is that neither silver nor thiosulfate ever comes near
>> it.

Not necessarily. Thiosulfate has been used in the paper manufacturing
industry (as an antichlor) since the 1840s. I used to see it utilized in
paper conservation labs...

>I've been using fixed out photographic paper simply because it is easy and
>is what I have on hand. My very first experiment was actually done with a
>piece of poster board sized with some spray starch. One of the nice
>things about Carbon transfer is that you can put the image on pretty much
>any surface you can get the gelatin to stick to. Some of the surfaces
>I've been thinking about trying are: glass, aluminum, white enameled
>masonite, and floor tile. For now, I think I'll keep refining the
>technique for paper.
>
>As far as the suspension of barium sulfate you mention, I personally don't
>know anything about it. You might check a good art store. They could
>probably suggest some white paints or lacquers that could be used as a
>base coat, and possibly do double duty as a sizing agent. I thought I'd

You'd compromise the permanence of your results.

Luis Nadeau
Fredericton, NB, Canada