Steve Shapiro (sgshiya@redshift.com)
Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:30:53 -0800
Because Sandy King wrote below --
Okay, I'll take you up on that, and I believe a better negative can be made
with 'out of the can' developer when used by someone who knows what they've
got than any PMK developer.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy King <sanking@hubcap.clemson.edu>
To: FotoDave@aol.com <FotoDave@aol.com>
Cc: alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca
<alt-photo-process-l@skyway.usask.ca>
Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: tri-x and bpf 200
>FotoDave wrote:
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>>>Recently there were some posts about the special look of pyro developed
>>>negatives. No offense intended here, but I don't really understand what
the
>>>point is. We ***do know*** that pyro gives different look (adjacency
effect
>>>and maybe a slightly different curve; also the staining which might be
useful
>>>more for silver printing than alt. process).
>>>
>>>I have never thought that experienced photographers like Carl, Sandy,
>>>Hutching, and hundreds or thousands of pyro users (there is a pyro maniac
>>>group!) have problematic vision that they see things that don't exist at
all.
>>>My question last year (or 2 years ago) was not whether pyro gives
different
>>>result but whether this result can be achieved only by pyro or can be
>>>achieved
>>>in a "normal" but diluted, compensating developer. Even if it can be
achieved
>>>with some ordinary MQ developer, I still won't go against pyro. Why would
I?
>>>
>Oh Dave, Dave, Dave, there you go again with this Pyro bashing thing
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>Seriously, I tried hard to ignore your post (and resisted doing so for more
>than *24 hours*), but the temptation to respond was just too much for me.
>
>So, here is what you need to do.Just forget about tests and step wedges and
>densitometers and go out and make a few *in-camera* large format negatives
>using PMK, and whatever other developer you like (if you need EV rating and
>development instructions for PMK for a specific film there is almost surely
>someone on the list who can provide it). Next, make the best prints you can
>from the two negatives. Then, look carefully at the graduation of tones in
>the prints, with special focus on the high values. If after doing these
>tests you don't come to the conclusion that the PMK negatives are much
>easier to print and make much better prints (which in turn should prove
>that Pyro is a magical developer) there is really no hope for you.
>
>OK? Good luck!
>
>Sandy King
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